A new low for flops

[windycty]

In the fbo last night at lax a flops pilot was trying to pay for fuel. For some reason the company card wasn't working. The company forced the pilot to pay for the fuel with his OWN credit card. He was speechless. He also said that the company would not be paying him back for it until after christmas. I felt bad for the guy.

 

[208starcheck]

A simple "UNABLE" is all I would say. If I had to, I would lie and say my card was already maxed because of Christmas. Then ask the CP for his CC number.

 

[Wankel7]

Wow, how much was the charge for? That really does suck...I would have been unable too. But that was some real team spirit for him to do that.

 

[Hobbes]

When they want to pay my credit card off (by offering industry standard pay and benefits which will allow ME to pay it off) then we can talk about team spirit. Until then they can shove it. If they can't pay for the fuel that just means I get to sit around and do nothing until they can.

 

[On Your Six]

In the fbo last night at lax a flops pilot was trying to pay for fuel. For some reason the company card wasn't working. The company forced the pilot to pay for the fuel with his OWN credit card. He was speechless. He also said that the company would not be paying him back for it until after christmas. I felt bad for the guy.

Imagine the airline points for that purchase!

Seriously, that could not be more lame. FLOPS should be renamed BITES. I feel for the pilots there who have to put up with that $hit...

 

[windycty]

I am not sure exactly how much it was but he looked as if someone had kicked him in the stomach. Listening to his phone call with the company made me feel badly for how the flops guys are treated.

 

[dime line]

all he had to say was no. can't afford to max out my card....

 

[realityman]

Gotta agree. No freaking way would I pay for ANYTHING like that for the company! I do feel badly for that pilot though. Imagine how beat down he must be to agree to something like that.

Honestly, I hope this story turns out to be untrue. If it really is true, those guys are in deeper trouble than anyone ever thought.

 

[theskyking]

One word. Hell no!!!

 

[Freedom]

Hell No is Right...

The only requirement at Flight Options is that a Pilot hold a personal credit card for possible expenses incurred on the road, such as expensing a rental car with a company that Options cannot direct bill with.

Nowhere in ANY Flight Options manual does it state that a Pilot must have a Credit Card with X dollars as a credit limit. They can't demand that, its the Pilots' credit, not the company's.

So my answer would be this: I would be more than happy to put $500 dollars worth of Fuel on my Credit Card, but that is all I can afford from my credit limit. $500 dollars, what's that, 100 gallons or 670 lbs? See how far that gets you in a Jet.

Remember, its your Credit Card, not theirs. It is not their decision as to what one is comfortable doing with it.

If they don't like it, they can authorize the use of the Company's Amex for more than just Hotels. They trust us with Multimillion Dollar airplanes, but won't to appropriately use a Company Credit Card???

Options Management plain and simple: SUCKS.

Stand United Shoulder to Shoulder and DEMAND a Contract, or this will be your life going forward.

Freedom is not Free.

 

[SilverSurfer]

In the fbo last night at lax a flops pilot was trying to pay for fuel. For some reason the company card wasn't working. The company forced the pilot to pay for the fuel with his OWN credit card. He was speechless. He also said that the company would not be paying him back for it until after christmas. I felt bad for the guy.

All this pilot should have said is NO. We are not responsible for financing the company

 

[NJA bound]

Flame, no one would pay with their own card

 

[WabiSabi]

When I was @ FLOPS, I met a coworker that had a $500 limit on a personal credit card and it was dedicated to company expenses for this very reason. He was at some Canadian airport that only took MC or Visa and the company had to call in a credit card number to pay for the fuel.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Flame, no one would pay with their own card

Can't say if the story is true or not but there have been many times over the years where pilots have put fuel expenses on their own cards to get their employer out of a jam so it wouldn't really surprise me. Ask the Polar, Tower, Kiwi, second Pan Am, National, Kitty Hawk, etc. guys if it ever happened at their company. Of course, what do all those airlines have in common? That's right. Crap companies operating on the brink of financial disaster with their employees shouldering the burden. FLOPS certainly meets that criteria so maybe some poor sap was made to feel his job was on the line if he didn't man up with a personal credit card. Obviously, many of us would rather tell the company where to go and get fitted for the Hope Depot apron but that doesn't mean it hasn't happened.

 

[clickclickboom]

I was at some obscure northern canadian airport and they did not accept multiserve. I had to put $2400 on my credit card. Flops paid me within 5 days with a direct deposit..

Of course that was 7 years ago when flops guys also used to stay in Ritz Carltons and spend 4 days on stby in cabo and sxm while the NJA guys were at the econolodge.. AHHHHH times change dont they..

 

[50Pesos]

One word. Hell no!!!

UHHH thats two!

 

[50Pesos]

One word. Hell no!!!

UHH thats two!

 

[pilotyip]

Some guys are in a lean forward mode, get the job done kinda guys. I guess they should all be banned from working in avaition.

 

[fischman]

I was at a $hithole in MN that did not take multiserv one day. I actually OFFERED to use my personal card to pay for the fuel to get the heck out of there. Of course, I don't work at FLOPS.

(Turns out I didn't need to do this anyway, but I would have.)

 

[Cavpilot]

Of course that was 7 years ago when flops guys also used to stay in Ritz Carltons and spend 4 days on stby in cabo and sxm while the NJA guys were at the econolodge.. AHHHHH times change dont they..

Econolodge? No, I don't think so. Hotels have been consistently good for the seven years I've been at EJA/NJA.