A new low for flops

[WabiSabi]

Some guys are in a lean forward mode, get the job done kinda guys. I guess they should all be banned from working in avaition.

Spoken by someone that has zero understanding of working at FLOPS.

 

[buckeyes95]

I certainly hopr this is not true. If it is, the guy should've had the balls to tell FLOPS to shove it up there ass. No way I would be anything like fuel on my own CC.

 

[ozpilot]

I've done it once at Netjets. I was up in Alaska and the FBO didn't take Multi-Service. I used my AMEX card. Cleared it with the ACP first. The charge was almost $9000, The money was in my account by the time I got back to the 'lower 48' ...

 

[pilotyip]

true

Spoken by someone that has zero understanding of working at FLOPS.

But I do have a lot of expereince being between jobs, and anything I can do to help my company stay in business is always my first concern. But I guess there are so many jobs now that screw the company is the battle cry of our times

 

[old*art]

Before the company credit card at NJA you would not get hired if you could not get a $5000 credit card line. I heard of one guy who cosigned a house loan for a friend that went sour, screwed up his credit, and kept him from getting hired. One Sunday afternoon in the Carolinas I had to overwing self service a bird using my personal card - the pump would not take Multiserv - it was just part of it back then. Course I was not worried about it with Netjets. They apologize to us when the NJA card does not work hehe.

 

[CA1900]

But I do have a lot of expereince being between jobs, and anything I can do to help my company stay in business is always my first concern.

And you think loaning three months salary to a financially shaky company, at credit card interest rates, with nothing more than a verbal promise to repay, is a prudent move?

My job is to fly and take care of the plane, not finance its operation.

But I guess there are so many jobs now that screw the company is the battle cry of our times

When that company goes under, and you're repaying a $10,000 fuel bill yourself at 22.5% interest, you're going to feel mighty foolish.

The company's debts are isolated to the corporation; yours aren't. There's a big difference between going the extra mile, and risking your family's finances by taking out a $10,000 personal loan, because your employer can't cover a credit card payment.

 

[glasspilot]

Why couldn't the company use the phone to get a credit card to the FBO?

If there were no other option because of self serve requiring an actual card or something then I can almost see it. But if phoning in a number is an option and the company simply doesn't want to then I'd use my personal card to purchase an airline ticket / rental car out of there and quick.

The posts above about putting company expense on your personal credit are spot on. In fact, risking your families financial security by placing a questionable companies operating expense on your personal credit would raise questions about your sound judgement and decision making abilities. I think there may be a case to revoke your ATP.

 

[old*art]

On another note I know someone who is still trying to get $30,000 back from a 135 operator he let use his credit card balance. The operator is out of business now.

 

[surveypilot]

Be careful!

I am still trying to recover money owed to me from a former employer for doing this very thing. After months of not getting reimbursed, I left the company and then they went out of business shortly thereafter.

I blame myself for letting this happen, and trust me, it will not happen again.

 

[G100driver]

But I do have a lot of expereince being between jobs, and anything I can do to help my company stay in business is always my first concern. But I guess there are so many jobs now that screw the company is the battle cry of our times

Yip are you willing to "loan" your employer money to keep them afoat? How about work and not get paid for month? I gotta feed my family.

This is the potential when you are told to use your personal CC to cover expenses.

A little different than showing up to work with a smile on your face and a can do attitude.

 

[dime line]

But I do have a lot of expereince being between jobs, and anything I can do to help my company stay in business is always my first concern. But I guess there are so many jobs now that screw the company is the battle cry of our times

This is why we don't have a contract......

 

[acaTerry]

Flame, no one would pay with their own card

There's a whoooole biiiig world of aviation outside of where you and I work my friend....

 

[Myster79]

HELL NO! I won't pay for anything. We get denied for rental car gas. I can't imagine jet fuel!!!!!

 

[WabiSabi]

But I do have a lot of expereince being between jobs, and anything I can do to help my company stay in business is always my first concern. But I guess there are so many jobs now that screw the company is the battle cry of our times

If there is a layoff or if the company goes completely out of business, it would not be the fault of the pilots. If the company goes out of business because a pilot didn't want to float the company for one fuel purchase, then there are much bigger problems. Again, you do not understand FLOPS and your general experience in or out of jobs has zero application in this discussion.

 

[Diesel]

Hey Yip I just heard that you won/inherited some money. Of course there are some filing fees and stuff so if you just send me your credit card number I'll be sure and start working on those pesky little filing fees and get you that money from africa.

 

[pilotyip]

Whooo!

Hey Yip I just heard that you won/inherited some money. Of course there are some filing fees and stuff so if you just send me your credit card number I'll be sure and start working on those pesky little filing fees and get you that money from africa.

call me right away, 313-555-2315, I can not wait. I used to fly a with a pilot who was with Universal, how many reember them? They went out of business with no advance notice, The crew pitched in the buy gas out of there pockets to fly the Electra from someplace in Canada to YIP. It was the cheapest quickest way to get home. Of course back then gas was about .20/gal

 

[Fozzy]

Some guys are in a lean forward mode, get the job done kinda guys. I guess they should all be banned from working in avaition.

Ah, that would be bend forward.

 

[WabiSabi]

Originally Posted by pilotyip
But I do have a lot of expereince being between jobs, and anything I can do to help my company stay in business is always my first concern. But I guess there are so many jobs now that screw the company is the battle cry of our times


This is why we don't have a contract......

Exactly. This "You should be happy to just have a job" crap has got to stop or the race to the bottom will continue.

 

[CA1900]

The bar's so low you could trip on it by now...

 

[G100driver]

call me right away, 313-555-2315, I can not wait. I used to fly a with a pilot who was with Universal, how many reember them? They went out of business with no advance notice, The crew pitched in the buy gas out of there pockets to fly the Electra from someplace in Canada to YIP. It was the cheapest quickest way to get home. Of course back then gas was about .20/gal

Yea ... and it was the cheapest way to get home ... I hope they parted the airplane when they got back in exchange for gas money ...