Airlines 4th Quarter 07 Earnings Estimates

[Ex737Driver]

This seems a little off too.

These numbers can and do change, sometimes daily. The numbers do reflect the current concensus among investment houses.

Airline - 3rd qtr
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JBLU - +.12 a share
LCC - +1.86 a share

and actually LCC has changed since this post. Now +.05 a share 4th qtr estimate.

 

[johnnyb]

If true, UA will lose the most..........that's AFTER screwing the employees in bankruptcy.

How can they lose money and do this?

NEW YORK, Dec. 7, 2007 (Thomson Financial delivered by Newstex) -- United Airlines Friday said its board approved a special distribution of $250 million, or $2.15 a share, to holders of UAL Corp. (NASDAQ:UAUA) stock.

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/newstex/AFX-0013-21514342.htm

 

[Uniform Shop]

Don't forget Allegiant........

Where do you guys have bases now? I know you opened up FLL and I think a couple other bases in Florida.

How many pilots do you have now? I can't remember the exact number but I think there was only about 100 pilots when I was there. I left in Sept. 05'

I was only there for about 6 months and the upgrade at the time was only about 8 months. What is it now and are you guys still getting a bunch of MD80's?

 

[Ex737Driver]

Thought this might provoke some discussion now that a few airlines have given some plans for 08.

Airline - 4th QTR Est./WK1/WK2
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AAI - +.03 a share/ +.03
ALK - -.31 a share/ -.31
AMR - -.20 a share/ -.20
CAL - +.01 a share/ +.01
DAL - +.11 a share/ -.03
FDX - +1.99 a share/ +1.99
FRNT - -.42 a share/ -.49
JBLU - +.02 a share/ +.01
LCC - +.02 a share/ -.12
LUV - +.12 a share/ +.12
NWA - -.06 a share/ -.09
UAUA - -.74 a share/ -.74
UPS - +1.14 a share/ +1.13

Second week of DEC update and it seems to be getting worse.

 

[eaglefly]

How can they lose money and do this?

NEW YORK, Dec. 7, 2007 (Thomson Financial delivered by Newstex) -- United Airlines Friday said its board approved a special distribution of $250 million, or $2.15 a share, to holders of UAL Corp. (NASDAQ:UAUA) stock.

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/newstex/AFX-0013-21514342.htm

Because they're crooked.

 

[BiffF15]

Because they're crooked.

In every sense of the word.

 

[Beetle007]

Maybe the airlines have realized they are a failing business model. They are trying to divest their assets (e.g., regionals, frequent flyer programs, maintenance facilities). They are basically having a yard sale for the stock holders so they can take their money and run.

 

[g-code]

How can they lose money and do this?

NEW YORK, Dec. 7, 2007 (Thomson Financial delivered by Newstex) -- United Airlines Friday said its board approved a special distribution of $250 million, or $2.15 a share, to holders of UAL Corp. (NASDAQ:UAUA) stock.

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/newstex/AFX-0013-21514342.htm

Didn't all UA pilots recieve UA stock after BK. If so don't they get part of the payout?

 

[Ex737Driver]

Almost the end of the forth quarter and the estimates for earnings are;


Airline - 4th QTR Est./WK1/WK2/WK3
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AAI - +.03 a share/ +.03 / +.03
ALK - -.31 a share/ -.31 / -.32
AMR - -.20 a share/ -.20 / -.22
CAL - +.01 a share/ +.01 / +.04
DAL - +.11 a share/ -.03 / -.05
FDX - +1.99 a share/ +1.99 / +1.99
FRNT - -.42 a share/ -.49 / -.49
JBLU - +.02 a share/ +.01 / .00
LCC - +.02 a share/ -.12 / -.17
LUV - +.12 a share/ +.12 / +.12
NWA - -.06 a share/ -.09 / -.09
UAUA - -.74 a share/ -.74 / -.74
UPS - +1.14 a share/ +1.13 / +1.13

 

[contrail67]

Don't know if these are current estimates but I could believe the UAUA numbers. They still have about 6 billion dollars of money, most of it ours, in the bank to blow through. If these are good numbers we'll still make money on the year in spite of our management. I did just go to yahoo finance to look up estimates though and some of these are off though.

True,...can anyone post the first 3 quarter numbers? Last quarter I believe it was a $360m profit...just curious how the WHOLE year averaged....for UAL and others...I believe it was positive as a whole.? It is typical for a company to have a bad quarter historically. I have seen the estimates not be true too..will have to just see.

 

[contrail67]

If true, UA will lose the most..........that's AFTER screwing the employees in bankruptcy.

No wonder they're desperate to merge with somebody. If they don't soon, they won't be able to pay their employees the little they left them.

Like the other airlines that did the BK thing did not screw the employees too! WAS NOT JUST UAL!

 

[Ex737Driver]

Airline - 4th QTR Est./WK1/WK2/WK3/WK4
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AAI - +.03 a share/ +.03 / +.03 / +.02
ALK - -.31 a share/ -.31 / -.32 / -.31
AMR - -.20 a share/ -.20 / -.22 / -.46
CAL - +.01 a share/ +.01 / +.04 / +.06
DAL - +.11 a share/ -.03 / -.05 / -.07
FDX - +1.99 a share/ +1.99 / +1.99 / +2.00
FRNT - -.42 a share/ -.49 / -.49 / -.49
JBLU - +.02 a share/ +.01 / .00 / -.03
LCC - +.02 a share/ -.12 / -.17 / -.24
LUV - +.12 a share/ +.12 / +.12 / +.11
NWA - -.06 a share/ -.09 / -.09 / -.06
UAUA - -.74 a share/ -.74 / -.74 / -.67
UPS - +1.14 a share/ +1.13 / +1.13 / +1.13

Last week of the fourth quarter. Looks like a small profit and breaking even for most airlines except the old stallwarts, FDX and UPS.

 

[crxpilot]

Just adding Allegiant to the mix.

Originally Posted by Ex737Driver
Airline - 4th QTR Est./WK1/WK2/WK3/WK4
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AAI - +.03 a share/ +.03 / +.03 / +.02
AAY - +.27 a share/ / / +.25
ALK - -.31 a share/ -.31 / -.32 / -.31
AMR - -.20 a share/ -.20 / -.22 / -.46
CAL - +.01 a share/ +.01 / +.04 / +.06
DAL - +.11 a share/ -.03 / -.05 / -.07
FDX - +1.99 a share/ +1.99 / +1.99 / +2.00
FRNT - -.42 a share/ -.49 / -.49 / -.49
JBLU - +.02 a share/ +.01 / .00 / -.03
LCC - +.02 a share/ -.12 / -.17 / -.24
LUV - +.12 a share/ +.12 / +.12 / +.11
NWA - -.06 a share/ -.09 / -.09 / -.06
UAUA - -.74 a share/ -.74 / -.74 / -.67
UPS - +1.14 a share/ +1.13 / +1.13 / +1.13

 

[Ex737Driver]

Just adding Allegiant to the mix.

Originally Posted by Ex737Driver
Airline - 4th QTR Est./WK1/WK2/WK3/WK4
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AAI - +.03 a share/ +.03 / +.03 / +.02
AAY - +.27 a share/ / / +.25
ALK - -.31 a share/ -.31 / -.32 / -.31
AMR - -.20 a share/ -.20 / -.22 / -.46
CAL - +.01 a share/ +.01 / +.04 / +.06
DAL - +.11 a share/ -.03 / -.05 / -.07
FDX - +1.99 a share/ +1.99 / +1.99 / +2.00
FRNT - -.42 a share/ -.49 / -.49 / -.49
JBLU - +.02 a share/ +.01 / .00 / -.03
LCC - +.02 a share/ -.12 / -.17 / -.24
LUV - +.12 a share/ +.12 / +.12 / +.11
NWA - -.06 a share/ -.09 / -.09 / -.06
UAUA - -.74 a share/ -.74 / -.74 / -.67
UPS - +1.14 a share/ +1.13 / +1.13 / +1.13

Thanks.

 

[FlyWolf]

Where is Midwest? I wonder how much we are gonna loose this quarter with all the wx cancellations. It won't be pretty.