ATI Routes

[Batfish]

Anyone know how many aircraft ATI has on Scheduled routes and where they fly to. Only thing I could find was a Florida, Antigua, Ascension Island Route. Also I have seen their aircraft in LRD a lot, I assume that is a regular route.

Also does the # of AC on scheduled stuff vary or generally the same. Thanks, batfish

 

[l8fr82hub]

Regular routes we fly:
TOL-LAX
TOL-SJC
TOL-BFI-PDX
TOL-DFW-IAH
TOL-RFD-LRD
TOL-PHL
TOL-EWR-BDL
TOL-BFI-LAX
MLB-Ascension Island
BWI-Thule, Greenland
BWI-Lajes AB, Azores
We also have a combi trip out of Honolulu, but I'm not sure of it's exact routing at this time.

Lots of ad hoc charters that go pretty much anywhere too.

 

[Batfish]

Regular routes we fly:
TOL-LAX
TOL-SJC
TOL-BFI-PDX
TOL-DFW-IAH
TOL-RFD-LRD
TOL-PHL
TOL-EWR-BDL
TOL-BFI-LAX
MLB-Ascension Island
BWI-Thule, Greenland
BWI-Lajes AB, Azores
We also have a combi trip out of Honolulu, but I'm not sure of it's exact routing at this time.

Lots of ad hoc charters that go pretty much anywhere too.

Thanks for the info, didn't realize you had that many international routes! Do the longer scheduled routes like MLB-Ascension 2x week, or TOL-BFI-LAX, HNL -someplace, tend to go senior? Is the charter stuff a crap shoot time wise or is it generally high/low? Thank You, Batfish

 

[l8fr82hub]

The international routes go very senior, the scheduled TOL-BFI-LAX and TOL-LAX trips are also very senior. Charter trips are very much a crap shoot and generally go to open reserve guys.

 

[MrSky]

Looks Like another guy getting ready to interview....LOL

 

[Batfish]

The international routes go very senior, the scheduled TOL-BFI-LAX and TOL-LAX trips are also very senior. Charter trips are very much a crap shoot and generally go to open reserve guys.

l8fr82hub, thanks again for the info!

Do ATI pilots have access to ID90 or ZED fares?

Mrsky, you got it!

batfish

 

[b707guy]

Right now, we're only doing one scheduled HNL run, and that goes to Kwaj twice a week, and to Wake once every two weeks. It's a two week rotation. The trip starts at Travis AFB and spends the middle weekend there, too. Ascension, Thule, Lajes go once a week. This is the slimmest we've ever been with scheduled international runs, with only 5 lines available for bid. There were over 20 when MrSky and I got hired in '98. All of the runs that we no longer do were not offered for renewal by DoD when each of them went away - nothing to do with our reliability or availability, but still a shame (for us...).

We have 16 operating airplanes, usually 1 or 2 down for heavy mx at any given time. 12 are freighters. The "extra" planes over the ones needed for the runs shown by L8 above are usually busy with some mighty interesting charters. We'll take radioactive dolphins with AIDS to Baghdad if someone called with such a need!


We're not gone nearly as much as Polar, Southern, etc, so it's a great middle road adventure if you have family but still want to have fun.

Good luck at the interview!:beer:

Forgot to add - no ID90 for personal travel, don't know what ZED is, but the company occasionally uses IDxx tickets to get you where you need to go. Haven't seen it in a while, so maybe those relationships are no longer available. We are full CASS, however, so if you have access to one of the cities listed above and work at a participating CASS company, you'd be welcome to come along for a ride, maybe see the hub, get scared by a few of our characters, etc!

 

[Batfish]

B707guy, thanks for the info!! batfish

 

[TWA]

Wake island? What's left there?

 

[Batfish]

Forgot to add - no ID90 for personal travel, don't know what ZED is

I don't know what a zed fare is either. I saw some of those fancy pax guys mention it on the major or regional board. Sounded like and id90 but different, uh....right. -batfish

 

[Batfish]

ok, found it!

from www.gozed.com

Important facts about goZED.

ZED was formed in 1994 to simplify leisure travel arrangements for airline employees travelling on another carrier. The system of ID fares (ID90, ID50, etc.) was based on a percentage discount off the published full fare price for a route given a specific origin and destination for each ticket. To allow for more predictable fares, easier interline trip planning and ticketing, ZED created travel zones with specific pricing.

Airlines within the ZED framework have variations on the agreements. These include the level of ZED fare charged (ZH, ZM, ZL for ZED high, medium and low) as well as embargoes and restrictions on code shares.

 

[propsarebest]

Wake island? What's left there?

And isn't the airfield closed?

We can't use it as an ETP anymore.

 

[kaveman9]

As of last week, this was there,......

It's open but without any navaids and notam'd as not available for use as an alternate.

 

[b707guy]

My understanding is that Wake is basically in caretaker status. I haven't been there in over a year, myself, so maybe all we take in these days are a pallet of MREs for the few that are still there. We used to have two planes pass through every other week connecting OKO with HNL, but there were a lot more people on the island then.

 

[TWA]

Any fuel available or other carriers currently going in there?

 

[b707guy]

None that I know of. I don't think we tanker fuel, though, to get back to HNL. I'll check with some of the folks who've been there recently to see what's up there!

 

[kaveman9]

I was just there last week. Going again around the 20th. We took in 5 pax and six pallets totalling maybe 20,000#. Left with 18 pax and little more than mail(and a bag of $14 T-shirts). The pax were contractors that I assumed had been working construction repairs on the facilities. The VOR is still lying in the marsh alongside the runway. There's what appears to be a fuel storage tank toppled over in the brush, but the vegetation is back to green and as far as I could see, the buildings were all intact. We uplifted something like 10,000gal of fuel at $2.35 per according to the receipt.

One of the contractors(retired United CA)asked if we could do an ID90 to get him back to HNL. Seems the standard ride is $2800 one-way. Of course the seats belong to the .mil, so there wasn't much we could offer him. I'm not sure if he was one of the 18 or just looking at options to get out.

 

[b707guy]

"Coast to coast in 60 seconds!"

Thanks for the update, kaveman

 

[mu2]

What are the schedules like? Are you gone from home for a long time?

B707guy, nice car!

 

[MrSky]

This Is an Excerpt from a letter I wrote to someone about work Conditions at ATI..... Maybe It will answer a few ?? for other folks interviewng or who have interviewed....

1.Long term is ATI a good place to be?
A. It has provided a good living for me and my family. And for the most part always treated me fairly. But like any ware that is a small company, you want to treat them with respect, because EVERYONE knows you. I.E. Treat them well they tend to treat you well.

2 What are your schedules like ?
A. Well they advertised in the past week on/week off, that almost never happens. Mind you I'm very senior in the right seat so I'm on a west coast line (LA) doing 2 on/ 5 off.(no weekends). The lines vary from that on one extreme to International lines that can have you out 16 days. You are guaranteed 12 days off a month, depending on geographically where you live you can get several more. I would guess on average the lines are 8 on/6off with 1 to 2 weekends a month off.

3.How long would you sit reserve, and do you do it at home or in base?
A. Probably looking at 6 months of reserve. We have basically 3 types of reserve.
1a. Open Reserve, you sit at home till you are called, you can and probably will be out 2 weeks when you go out, then you will have about 12 days they can't call you. Wanna see the world (literally) you bid this one.
2a. Scheduled Reserve, works out about 8 0n 6 Off, you may stay "ready" at home, they may locate you to the hub in Toledo. Or assign you a trip that has not been covered.

3a. Hotel Standby, you travel to Toledo, sit in the hotel, and pick up any trips in or out of the hub. they vary from 10 to 11 days out.

4 How much time do you spend away from home?
A. Being Jr. I would expect 14-16 days a month on the road (our "month" is 28 days or 4 weeks), not necessarily all days in a group.

5 How much do fly per month?
A. Our guarantee is 56 hours, expect 40 on the low side to 60 on the high side, unless you get an international line (bidding "Open" Reserve can do this for you) if your Jr. then you can possibly score 85+ hours and a higher per diem. ($35/day dom. $50day Inter.) But figure on about 50 hours per Bid Unit.

6. What can FO expect to make first and second year with per diem etc.
A. Our starting rate is $51.19 an hour, i believe. So 51.19 x 56 x 13(13 pay periods/yr)= $37,266.32 + per diem. You are paid per diem from about 8 hours from the start of your assignment (unless you are sitting at home on reserve) to 8 hours past your assignment I figure on about $5,500 Domestic more if you do International.
Second year pay $65/hr ($47,300)
Third year pay $77/hr ($56,000)
Forth Year pay 82/hr ($59,900)
Tops out at 12 year FO pay $101/hr

7. And probably the most important Question...How do I Travel to work?
A. In my time at ATI I have Never had to buy a ticket or Bow and Curtsy to some Mainline Captain to get to work, we are "Home Based" that means if you are assigned a trip more that 100 miles( I believe) from your home it is on the company to get you there. They buy you a ticket (Coach), rent you a car, put you on a "system" A/C or whatever, but it is their responsibility to get you to work. We have guys all over the country and one or two overseas that have never worried how to get to work.