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I quit earlier this month.. I wrote a letter to the MEC that I needed to be placed on inactive status but I did not get a response. I am sure I was one of the 200 or so that was labled a no show vote.. I recieved a ballot in the mail i still get emails instructing me how to vote.. yet I am no longer employed by ASA.. Good luck with the new contract... and if you all want to donate a percentage of your signing bonus to me for walking in circles for 5 years please deposit into account # 003457984756 routing # 0678465

Thank you
 
Medeco said:
PBS, WITH good provisions and protection will not be much different then what we get now.

Medeco
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I'm not going to say whether it's good or bad. It depends on the vendor and the parameters and how much input the pilot group has. Hopefully, if we get it we follow the DAL pilots' model. They seem to be the happiest with it.

I'm just saying it will be the next issue at ASA.
 
ed by ASA.. Good luck with the new contract... and if you all want to donate a percentage of your signing bonus to me for walking in circles for 5 years please deposit into account # 003457984756 routing # 0678465

Lets all pay our bills with his ac********************. I can not believe this would be a real account. If so you are not very smart !!
 
wms said:
I'm not going to say whether it's good or bad. It depends on the vendor and the parameters and how much input the pilot group has. Hopefully, if we get it we follow the DAL pilots' model. They seem to be the happiest with it.

I'm just saying it will be the next issue at ASA.
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It will be the CHEAPEST vendor PERIOD!!

watch
 
bluefly72 said:
However everyone you talk to is going to claim they voted no...
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I'm proud to be one of that 166 that voted no! Too bad I couldn't convince more people to vote no. To the 200 people leaving in the next 6 months, thanks for f***ing me with this crappy contract! No hard feelings though, I would have done the same thing. :)
 
Ya know what, the more people that leave the better... get outta my seat :pimp: I'm happy that we're gonna get some more cash over the next 3 years instead of getting nothing extra for the 18 months it would have taken to get another TA and have it voted down by the same morons who could have voted this one down. I'm makin more cash, easier commute, better QOL and we'll theoretically lose fewer aircraft than if we hadn't voted in the contract. if you think it's such crap and hate the company that much, maybe you oughta start looking for something that tickles your pickle and get outta my seat too. :p *sMoOcHeS*
 
Ineedabrew said:
Dang dude, hahahaha. Man, so how do you really feel about Skynation?
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He feels the way many on here feel, except he'll come out and say it.
 
CheeseDick said:
if they give you the same one that they use at skywest...for your trial period demand to be able to see everyone's bids and awards. The pbs there is seniority breaching
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Why does no one understand that we will negotiate for it? Nothing will be forced on us.
 
Yeah, there is absolutely no requirement for us to ever get PBS. But they will make schedules so pitiful that you will be begging for it. Watch.
 
I think we should all donate the signing bonus to BL as a going away present. He really deserves it, and where would the company be without his leadership the past couple of years?
 
I feel sorry for you poor F*CKERS that think it is all about the instant jackpot. I was there too, but I think you all just screwed the pooch with this one. There is no language or real gain for anything above 50/ 66 (ATR) seats.The industry + ATC ( ie. the government) is through dealing with massive delays for 20 RJs operating when 5 heavys can move more people in half the time. The future is in larger gauge A/C and you all just went back to square one when it comes to that. How does your contract protect you if Sky West decides to simply retire the 50 seaters?

Simply my opinion, let me know why I'm wrong.

To all the old school ASA'ers Good Luck.
 
You're right. But we can't do business without a contract, and judging by other airlines flying these and larger planes at lower rates, I think it's time for us to move on. If all regionals wither up and die because ATC can't handle the volume, then so be it.
 
geardown said:
I feel sorry for you poor F*CKERS that think it is all about the instant jackpot. I was there too, but I think you all just screwed the pooch with this one. There is no language or real gain for anything above 50/ 66 (ATR) seats.The industry + ATC ( ie. the government) is through dealing with massive delays for 20 RJs operating when 5 heavys can move more people in half the time. The future is in larger gauge A/C and you all just went back to square one when it comes to that. How does your contract protect you if Sky West decides to simply retire the 50 seaters?

Simply my opinion, let me know why I'm wrong.

To all the old school ASA'ers Good Luck.
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These so called large aircraft can not or will not be coming or available for the next 18-24 mos, and that is if they were ordered today! So, this contract expires in 36 month, and we can start working on worrying about that at that time! Further more, we do have some protection, in the form of a no furlough clause --- which yes, does protect us from retiring of airframes. So, Skywest can go ahead and retire 50's, but will have to give replacement aircraft to ASA, or pay us to sit home! Also, ASA still has the agreement to fly 80% of all DCI flights from ATL.
 
geardown said:
How does your contract protect you if Sky West decides to simply retire the 50 seaters?
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How does Delta's contract protect them if they decided to retire the MD-88s? Or when they retired the 737-200s?

How does United's contract protect them if they decided to retire the 747s?

Fact is, we have to let the company do business. If they decide the best way to do business is to retire 70% of our fleet, then so be it. At that point we're a sinking ship and the best contract in the world wouldn't protect us and keep our jobs.

What our contract does protect us against is Uncle Jerry deciding to move airplanes between the holding companies (which he did before and paid dearly for it.)
 
wms said:
The next battle will be PBS. I think the company will start bringing it up right after the holidays at the latest.
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AVOID,AVOID,AVOID!!!!! The PBS program that SKYW uses is krap, you will hate it, no transparency, a total mystery as to how it works, coupled with the companies ability to manipulate it at will=reserve like existence 24/7/365.CN,PN pooN will wreck your life. Do not allow it on the property at any cost, 2-3% of the pilot group will like it and everyone else will hate it!.
PBR
 
...well, all complaining aside, congrats to all my old Acey buddies. I know you guys were tired of circle walking and holding signs. I was. I never thought it would've taken THIS long.

I miss the badda bing lounge...
 

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