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Sonny Crockett

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I am sure the General will chime in......


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UAL-DAL
Hedge Fund Pardus Pushes
For Delta-United Merger
By SUSAN CAREY
November 14, 2007 1:11 p.m.

A hedge fund with stakes in Delta Air Lines Inc. and United Airlines parent UAL Corp. sent a letter to Delta management Tuesday renewing its calls for airline consolidation and specifically advocating a merger of Delta and United.

In the letter, Pardus Capital Management LP, which holds 7 million Delta shares and 5.6 million UAL shares, said it believes "it is imperative" that Delta "enter into a merger transaction with another carrier given the rapid rise in fuel prices and the increased risk to the business as a stand alone entity." Pardus, which noted that the letter was a followup to a Sept. 7 missive to Delta, said it has consulted industry experts including airline consulting firm SH&E and Gordon Bethune, former chief of Continental Airlines Inc.

With their input, Pardus studied potential combinations of Delta with United, Northwest Airlines Corp. and Continental, according to the letter, signed by Karim Samii, Pardus president, and Shane Larson, principal. "Pardus believes the most attractive and practical combination would be a Delta and United Airlines combination," the letter said, because that pairing would produce $585 million in synergies achieve more network breadth than the other combinations.

Pardus went on to recommend a stock-for-stock merger in which Delta shares would be issued to UAL holders, with each UAL holder receiving 2.395 Delta common shares. The hedge fund estimated that the combined company's stock would be valued at $53 a share in 2012, a 75% improvement from today. Pardus also "would support the Delta management team leading the strategic direction of the combined entity," with UAL Chairman and CEO Glenn Tilton serving as nonexecutive chairman for the next year or two.

The letter was sent to Richard Anderson, Delta's new CEO, Edward Bastian, Delta's president and Daniel Carp, chairman of the Atlanta-based airline. Delta, under previous CEO Jerry Grinstein, opposed a hostile takeover of Delta by US Airways Group Inc. early this year, saying that Delta was better off emerging from bankruptcy-court protection as an independent carrier. US Airways' effort fizzled, but its CEO, Doug Parker, remains an outspoken proponent of airline mergers.

Mr. Anderson, who succeeded Mr. Grinstein in September, quickly signaled that he believes airline consolidation could benefit Delta. His comments during the carrier's third-quarter results conference cal were echoed in varying degrees of enthusiasm by all the other major carriers' executives. Mr. Tilton, UAL's chief, has been advocating consolidation in the industry for several years.

Richard Anderson, Delta's chief executive officer, in a release said "we have been consistent in our public statements that Delta believes that the right consolidation transaction could generate significant value for our shareholders and employees and that strategic options should be evaluated. With oil at over $90 a barrel, this analysis takes on a heightened importance."

Delta's board, the statement added, recently established a special committee to evaluate merger possibilities and "to review and analyze strategic options to ensure Delta maintains its leadership position in the airline industry."

As talk of consolidation in the industry has intensified in recent months, Delta executives have been among the most vocal about studying possible transactions and have stressed that they see the Atlanta carrier as an acquirer, not a takeover target.
 
Official: Delta, United Mull Combination
Wednesday November 14, 2:27 pm ET
By Harry R. Weber, AP Business Writer
Official Says Delta, United Have Discussed Combining the Nation's No. 2 and No. 3 Carriers


ATLANTA (AP) -- UAL Corp.'s United Airlines and Delta Air Lines Inc. have been discussing a combination between the nation's second- and third-largest carriers that would keep the United name and the corporate headquarters in the Chicago area, The Associated Press has learned.
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There is a sense of urgency in the talks, which have been going on for some time and continued as recently as a week or so ago, an official with knowledge of the talks said Wednesday. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the person was not authorized to speak publicly.

"They want to get something done before a new administration gets in and so they get the clock ticking on" federal regulatory approval, the official said.

The exact financial details of the transaction being discussed are not clear. But the talks involve United being the name of the combined airlines, the headquarters staying in Chicago and Delta's Atlanta hub being an operational center for the two carriers, the official said. One possible scenario involves Delta CEO Richard Anderson being the chief of the combined airline, the official said.
A spokesperson for Elk Grove Village, Ill.-based United did not immediately return a call Wednesday seeking comment. Delta spokeswoman Betsy Talton declined to comment.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

ATLANTA (AP) -- UAL Corp.'s United Airlines and Delta Air Lines Inc. have been discussing a combination between the nation's second- and third-largest carriers that would keep the United name and the corporate headquarters in the Chicago area, The Associated Press has learned.
 
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Just over the AP wire

Fox just announced that UAL and DAL are now in talks to get something "inked" before a change in the Administration! United will be the name that is kept they are saying!
 
Let me save you all two years of frustration. Go decertify ALPA now in preparation of not getting what you want with the seniority integration. Throw out the rule book, ignore rulings, and whine until you get what you want.
 
DUlta?......I am pretty sure I read a thread or two on here, that the DELTA name would remain....and that has to be true..right?..Oh, wait...thats only if NWA and Delta happen...now this is different.
 
Am I the only one who finds this $hit really scary? Hedge funds driving the industry...and moronic management all to happy to be a lapdog in the process.
 
Am I the only one who finds this $hit really scary? Hedge funds driving the industry...and moronic management all to happy to be a lapdog in the process.


Exactly right.

"Let's get this done before someone who gives a crap about working people gets into office."
 
Hey Sonny Crockett,

Staple guns set to stun, fire at will!

Discuss...

Disclaimer: No dog in this fight...

Ralph


Hey Ralph!~

As my old boss, ya know I am just "lucky to be here" and I need to be doing it "better and cleaner than the other guy"

Just along for the ride....however it will be fun to have General Lee as my F/O!
 
DUlta?......I am pretty sure I read a thread or two on here, that the DELTA name would remain....and that has to be true..right?..Oh, wait...thats only if NWA and Delta happen...now this is different.
I just watched the Delta Town Hall Meeting where Ed Bastain and Richard Anderson both talked about this possibility. One maybe both said that if any merger were to happen it would be b/c it made sense for the shareholders employees and public....and they kept saying it in that order.
Also straight out of there mouths was the new entity would retain the DELTA name and remain headquartered in ATLANTA.
Now I'm not saying these guys are lying but they are management cronies......that being said I would venture to say that they probably have talked but all this is doing is keeping those shareholders happy in the thoughts that it is a possibility. A side effect of this is that both companies stock value has gone up.
 
How many 319s/320s does UAL have?

What about MD88/90s at Delta?

Seems like there's plenty of fleet commonality (737, 757, 767, 777) outside of those two fleets between the two...not to mention a huge amount of regional overlap.
 
Could this be the end of the honeymoon for Anderson?

Anybody who doesn't think this guy is a wolf in sheep's clothing ought to go watch his performance before the house aviation committee just after 9-11.

When asked about what would happen to workers that may be displaced, his response was "we'll follow the contracts." He showed zero emotion. The other CEOs (Mullin included) at least acted like they gave a crap about what was going to happen, but Anderson looked like he couldn't understand why they were asking such a question.....

Get ready DL folks, you're about to get the royal screw.....
 
See what a panic an "insider" who would "like to remain anonymous" can cause.
 
Maybe AirTran can change their name to Delta?
 
See what a panic an "insider" who would "like to remain anonymous" can cause.

Hey Goggles that is one of the funniest dog gone avatars I have seen. I hate that stupid little paperclip!
 
Could this be the end of the honeymoon for Anderson?

Anybody who doesn't think this guy is a wolf in sheep's clothing ought to go watch his performance before the house aviation committee just after 9-11.

When asked about what would happen to workers that may be displaced, his response was "we'll follow the contracts." He showed zero emotion. The other CEOs (Mullin included) at least acted like they gave a crap about what was going to happen, but Anderson looked like he couldn't understand why they were asking such a question.....

Get ready DL folks, you're about to get the royal screw.....

I would rather have an "unemotional" CEO who actually knows something about making money in this industry--which we have with Anderson--than another who puts on a good face to Congress, while he acquires massive debt to buy scores of RJs, fly 777s to Orlando and Tampa, and generate multimillion dollar payouts to execs who leave just before the BK filing--all which happened on Leo Mullin's watch.

If you make personal and professional judgments based on one's persona in front of a congressional testimony...well you need to get out more.
 
Well, if Pardus issued the letter in the early afternoon and sold a block of shares in both companies shortly thereafter, it looks like they made themselves a nice little profit on this little "surprise announcement."
 
Could this be the end of the honeymoon for Anderson?

Anybody who doesn't think this guy is a wolf in sheep's clothing ought to go watch his performance before the house aviation committee just after 9-11.

When asked about what would happen to workers that may be displaced, his response was "we'll follow the contracts." He showed zero emotion. The other CEOs (Mullin included) at least acted like they gave a crap about what was going to happen, but Anderson looked like he couldn't understand why they were asking such a question.....

Get ready DL folks, you're about to get the royal screw.....[quote]

Where do you come up with that last statement? Are you sure about that? Sounds like you followed your clowns at Indy Air right into the ground. Anderson made the statement that he and Delta are not engaging in talks with UAL, but are looking at strategic possibilities that could help Delta. I think you are still smarting about your crash and burn at Indy Air.

Bye Bye---General Lee
 

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