Delta Had A Great Quarter

[General Lee]

The General before Chapter 11...
http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?p=123517#post123517

All I can say is he really knows his stuff...

So, you thought I could see the future? Thanks. I can give opinions, and some are wrong, most are spot on. Thanks for having so much faith in me. Gawd bless you.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[PuffDriver]

Yeah...I think he has had 1 to many "midnight skies" enroute!

That's because SWA pilots are dumb enough to think that pay is all in the hourly rate. I don't have to prove I made more, I know it.

The honeymoon is ending at SWA guys. Dec 31 2009 will be the earliest that a SWA pilot MAY eclipse my 1099. The way things are going, however, I doubt even that.

If you don't believe me, just ignore me. Easy.

 

[GCAP]

So, you thought I could see the future? Thanks. I can give opinions, and some are wrong, most are spot on. Thanks for having so much faith in me. Gawd bless you.

Bye Bye--General Lee

No, you could not see the future.....Any boy that spends enough time on his knees can get most of what he wants.......it just doesn't taste very good.

 

[RedDogC130]

That's because SWA pilots are dumb enough to think that pay is all in the hourly rate. I don't have to prove I made more, I know it.

The honeymoon is ending at SWA guys. Dec 31 2009 will be the earliest that a SWA pilot MAY eclipse my 1099. The way things are going, however, I doubt even that.

If you don't believe me, just ignore me. Easy.

I have no problem with the money you make..I wish everyone the best when it comes to bringing home cash...

I just asked what the hourly wage is in your position. not hard. I realize that Delta has about a 2-3% match on 401K and a little profit sharing and a B scale( I think) just tell me what the rate per hour is...just to have an idea....Is it the same as on airlinepilotsentral? Not picking a fight just curious based on what you said.

 

[PuffDriver]

I have no problem with the money you make..I wish everyone the best when it comes to bringing home cash...

I just asked what the hourly wage is in your position. not hard. I realize that Delta has about a 2-3% match on 401K and a little profit sharing and a B scale( I think) just tell me what the rate per hour is...just to have an idea....Is it the same as on airlinepilotsentral? Not picking a fight just curious based on what you said.

Right, you wish everyone the best:

Last time I checked they are at the ATM. Every day that goes by is money they are taking from you. If you did not give consessions the money would be in your pocket not theirs. So they are at the ATM until you get back what you had...don't kid you

I do realize this is me vs you or us verus them....the fact that there is competition in this industry is a fact. We all can all hope for the best for the other team. Then we lose. There is not enough room on the field for everyone....someone will lose. I just hope it is not my team...if it is yours sorry for your
luck.



It's very simple. SWA is a domestic airline. Their pilots are knows money grabbers. They will fly over vacation when allowed. They fly sick to bank their sick trips. They are always trying to find ways to fly more. I know about 40 of them, so you can save the mantra. Additionally, they are not smart enough to even try and hide the fact that they look forward to the day fellow pilots lose their jobs when their airlines go BK. Well, my airline went BK, I didn't lose my job, and I will make more money than SWA 12 year captain's. If you follow my track record with a SWA pilot hired the same day as me, it's even more lopsided. Not until December 31 2009 do I predict that a SWA 12 year CA makes more than I do. Of course, that is provided that I am not a 767 international captain, which will likely happen on the bid coming in november. Meanwhile, a will keep an interested eye on what happens to SW pilots as these two years roll along, but without a payraise of 50%, they won't catch me in 2008. GL can fill you in on the details if he so wishes. These posts were merely for the SW guys who think that they actually have something to do with an airline's success, while they hung on the bar for years, are pushing for an age 60 change so they can whore for 5 more years, and have yet to surpass my earnings. BTW I know that htis does not apply to all SW pilots, but at least one of yours deserved it.

 

[PuffDriver]

Cool.

How long will Delta be hiring? When do you predict this hiring wave will crest?

Through '08 from the last we've heard. Try and ignore the SW party poopers. Try to ignore my retorts to them as well. Sometimes some people just need spanked. 600-700 in '08. I believe it is 4 777s in '08 and another 4 in '09. That alone requires 320 additional pilots, and probably me to create a training bubble. The original 13 757s from TWA/AA are now up to 15 or 15, I can't remember which. 10 737-700s begin arriving in aug '08. Somewhere in there are some -800s as well I think. Something like a total of 35 aircraft in the next 2 years. They are closely examining some 777s, shorter range-if you can imagine a short range 777, for some high density -ER stuff with lots of cargo. I agree with the general here--optimistic, especially considering the international stuff to cover our domestic a$$ since the economy seems to be tanking.

FWIW

 

[Benjamin Dover]

I am probably not a big help here.


Bye Bye--General Lee

I think we all agree on this. Well said :laugh:

BD

 

[General Lee]

I think we all agree on this. I am a complete idiot and the General is always right. I am a total tool and have nothing to contribute, ever. :laugh:

BD

Wow, that was a great comeback. Can you back up anything you say? At least I admitted that I could have been wrong about that information. Well said above, though.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Benjamin Dover]

Guys,

I've been reading this forum for 4 years now and you know what I think?

I think and see from the posts here that Delta Air Lines is the envy of the industry.

Even when pay is less, upgrades are long, BK etc. people compare their carriers with Delta and subconsciously are afraid of Delta "passing" them.

It is always obvious how most participants of this forum, who don't work for Delta, try to bump up their self esteem by pointing out things that are better at their airlines comparing to Delta.

What is that all about?
Does Delta hire better people, treats them better and overall is a better environment to work?

Just my opinion and I am not smoking nor drinking anything funny.


Please, correct me if I am wrong.

O.K., I'll correct you ... you're wrong. I worked for DAL for 8 years and I quit. No I was not furloughed. It used to be a great place - not anymore. I now work at SWA. It is a great place to work, despite the LUV-bashing by GL and the likes. Delta used to take care of the employee first (remember "Delta Family"....) and the corporate culture was the envy of the industry. Not anymore.

BTW, I am taking home 2nd year pay what I was when I quit 8th year pay. Oh, and more days off and shorter duty days too. Also, GL glossed over healthcare at DL as "is more than before BK". What an understatement. I won't pain you with the details how much less I pay for family healthcare at SWA. Word is that 2008 healthcare at DAL will not be pretty. Please fill is in on that plan. Hope nobody really needs to go to the doctor very often.

And one more thing for the SWA haters. I think this thread started with a "fuel hedge" comment. SWA is 65% hedged at $50/barrel for all of 2008. Just curious, what are DAL's hedges for 2008?

Gotta go pack my bag for my 30-leg three day trip. Glad to see GL back on again. I was worried he ate something bad in Lagos.

BD

 

[Benjamin Dover]

Wow, that was a great comeback. Can you back up anything you say? At least I admitted that I could have been wrong about that information. Well said above, though.

Bye Bye--General Lee

Nice quote changing GL. So here's a fact GL - I used to pay $70/month for family healthcare PPO at Delta before BK. It more than trippled before I quit and is probably more now. What is the monthly current monthly deduction for family heathcare at DAL GL? What's in store for 2008?My current deduction is $60/mo. at SWA.

There is more to the bottom line than hourly rates.

Hope it works out for you. Glad the debt is down is down to only $9B.

Gotta rest up for LBB

BD