Frontier or United

[BTerence]

Live in Denver and trying to choose an airline.
Looking at pay, upgrade time, number of pilots on books, start of the wave at United, Bottom of wave at Frontier. Hopefully new contract at United Jan 2010. Possible mergers. Does anyone have any good advice?

 

[Turtle21]

Live in Denver and trying to choose an airline.
Looking at pay, upgrade time, number of pilots on books, start of the wave at United, Bottom of wave at Frontier. Hopefully new contract at United Jan 2010. Possible mergers. Does anyone have any good advice?

Yeah. Get a career that promotes you based on performance and skill, rather than the whims of seniroity.

But if you feel lucky go with Frontier so you can staple the United guys that are getting hired in this wave once the two merge in 15 years.

 

[Wiskey Driver]

Yeah. Get a career that promotes you based on performance and skill, rather than the whims of seniroity.

But if you feel lucky go with Frontier so you can staple the United guys that are getting hired in this wave once the two merge in 15 years.

Get over it already Turtle! The man asked about a career at UAL vs Frontier not your personal issues with a new seniority list position!!!

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

WD: R U still at AWA/USAir?

Howz it goin'?

cliff
ABQ
PS-I applied at AWA just before they stopped hiring, several years ago.

 

[ualdriver]

Live in Denver and trying to choose an airline.
Looking at pay, upgrade time, number of pilots on books, start of the wave at United, Bottom of wave at Frontier. Hopefully new contract at United Jan 2010. Possible mergers. Does anyone have any good advice?

If you come to United and plan on living in DEN for your entire career, plan on being junior for a long time unless you want to commute. If you're thinking you want to fly widebodies some day (767 fleet and up), it is extremely senior in DEN vs. just about any other domicile. Ditto when you upgrade to narrowbody Captain.

Mergers? Who knows. It's complete and utter speculation- with either Frontier or UAL!

The new contract in 2010 (hopefully) will probably be industry leading, and I'm relatively confident of that. However, I'm also confident that whatever economic downturn follows the negotiation of said contract will drag our wages back down to whatever the latest flavor of LCC operators are paying, so I woudn't come to UAL (or any other major for that matter) thinking that they'll be able to sustain any gravity defying wage increases in the face of new and/or non-union carriers such as Virgin, Skybus, JetBlue, LCC-whoever, etc.

Good luck with your choice. Unless you have an urge to fly widebodies for some reason, I'd go with the guys who hire me first.

 

[crashpad]

Hey WD, always makes my day to see the Pirate with the Bottle!


Why not apply to both and let the winds of fate decide....they be the same winds blowing this industry around anyway.

 

[Wiskey Driver]

Hi!

WD: R U still at AWA/USAir?

Howz it goin'?

cliff
ABQ
PS-I applied at AWA just before they stopped hiring, several years ago.

Hey Cliff.

It's going pretty well thank you. Was with AWA until we became LCC the new company with the old name. Keep an ear out on the radio for call sign CACTUS.

WD.

 

[Wiskey Driver]

Hey WD, always makes my day to see the Pirate with the Bottle!


Why not apply to both and let the winds of fate decide....they be the same winds blowing this industry around anyway.

CP how you been?? It's been a while old friend. Things going good for you over there???

The pirate and I have a long history.

WD.

 

[BTerence]

Thank you for the responces. I have a start date with United and Frontier offered me an interview. I was up front with Frontier about United and they still want to interview me. The HR guy ask me to come down look at them.

 

[PCL_128]

Yeah. Get a career that promotes you based on performance and skill, rather than the whims of seniroity.

"Performance and skill" equals ass-kissing and brown-nosing. I'll stick with seniority, thanks.