Iranian President's DC-8 at JFK

[Scrapdog]

Why is this on the "Majors" board?

Because Ahmadenijad is a "major" do*chebag.

 

[AV80R]

... Whether some of you choose to believe it or not, we are at war with Iran - for years they have been supplying weapons, training and financial support to terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan - there's no question about it - and yet some of you decide it's more important to find reasons to turn the finger around and point it back at the US. You hate Bush, we get it. Can we fight the war on terror now please????

This is nothing new; there have always been some who preferred to hate their own country rather than to look the enemy in the eye, or even to recognize the enemy. Just look at moveon.org – the “everything is America’s fault” zit of the earth.

However, moveon.org is nothing new - they do have predecessors in history. Right before (and even during!) WW2 there was the German-American Bund of Nazi admirers and apologist; in my view moveon.org is today’s reincarnation of that phenomenon – they are admirers and apologist to the islamo-fascist movement. History repeating itself…

 

[denny]

AV80R,

Don't forget to add Swift Boat Veterans For Truth to the list of America hating groups!

And MarineGrunt just where shall we fight the "war on terror?" And who shall fight it?

 

[MarineGrunt]

And MarineGrunt just where shall we fight the "war on terror?"

Anywhere we need to. Period.

And who shall fight it?

I have 60+ missions and 400+ hours over Iraq and Afghanistan - and while that is a microscopic amount compared to some that are over there, I didn't have to spend ONCE SINGE SECOND there. I volunteered for all of it. Lucky for you, there are people who aren't afraid to fight.

 

[AV80R]

...Don't forget to add Swift Boat Veterans For Truth to the list of America hating groups! ...

I am glad there was a group of veterans willing to tell the truth about a weasel who brought a film camera with him to the war in order to portray himself as a hero for his future political aspirations.

This was not an America hating group - this was a veteran group who happened to know Jane Kerry much better than any leftwing reporter out there. Kerry's Fondesque behavior was disgusting but fortunately there are people out there, such as marine grunt and others, who volunteer for what has to be done and who don't throw away their medals for political reasons or associate themselves with traitors such as Fonda and others...

 

[denny]

Thanks for the replies. I'm sure you think I'm a wacko. I just wanted to point out that all of us at some point can and do hold extreme opinions. Yours is extremist in my view. Like you feel about Kerry I feel that most of the current crop of Republicans and our current president posed and modeled their way to office without any real understanding of what it means to serve and to protect the interests of not only themselves but the principles of American democracy.

It was interesting, to say the least, to see the Republican Party go after so many Viet Nam and Afghanistan and Iraqi veterans in the last election.

MarineGrunt I am proud of you for serving your country. I have no argument with that. I am concerned that there are fewer and fewer of you out there including those already serving while the threats against us continue to increase. We need people like you but unfortunately the demand is far outstripping the supply.

d

 

[AV80R]

Thanks for the replies. I'm sure you think I'm a wacko.

Not at all, I just disagree with you on many points, but wacko? Not at all...

I just wanted to point out that all of us at some point can and do hold extreme opinions. Yours is extremist in my view.

I know many people feel that way and that's the beauty of this country.

Like you feel about Kerry I feel that most of the current crop of Republicans and our current president posed and modeled their way to office without any real understanding of what it means to serve and to protect the interests of not only themselves but the principles of American democracy.

Trust me, I am not a big fan of many Republicans out there right now; not proud of Bush either but for different reasons than yours. My gripe with him is his illegal alien amnesty endorsement program and the laissez-faire approach to the illegal immigration. The war in Iraq and in Afghanistan I still agree with and I still support. Ronald Reagan was once vilified by the left and pretty much the entire world as a war-monger and hypocrite; today we know he was right and he did bring the Soviet empire to its knees. I hope one day the same will hold for Bush and his war on islamo-fascist.

 

[Scrapdog]

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MarineGrunt I am proud of you for serving your country. I have no argument with that. I am concerned that there are fewer and fewer of you out there including those already serving while the threats against us continue to increase. We need people like you but unfortunately the demand is far outstripping the supply.

d

No offense, but you must have your head in the sand. There are plenty of folks - in every shape, size, gender, and age - that are stepping up to the plate to serve every day. Believe it or not, unlike yourself...there are still numerous Americans who remember very vividly that we were (starting on 9/11/01) and STILL ARE engaged in a war on terror - and a war that is certainly winnable.

It's the folks with extremist liberal views - such as yourself - that think our military can't win this war. BS. If you feel that we're losing our stock of folks that still want to fight (which we aren't), you are more than free to step up to the plate yourself. Do something that makes a difference. Don't be one of those disgusting losers from moveon.org and the Daily Kos that slander our military and our war on terror day in and day out.

1. Get your head out of your butt and realize we're still fighting for our way of life that we so all enjoy. 2. Do something about it.

 

[General Lee]

By the way, the Iranian President flew into JFK on an Iran Air 747SP, not a DC8.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[denny]

Scrapdog,

That was a nice patriotic speech but it doesn't address reality. The terror war was ongoing long, long before 9/11. It's just that most people in this country only recognized that it was a current issue on 9/11 when it disrupted airline travel.

It's folks with extremist right wing views such as yourself that think we are engaging this reality with any degree of sense. I have paid attention to the commanding leaders of our forces and they are pretty clear that the orders they are bound to follow are not working and will not work. But as long as we wave Old Glory people like you will be happy in their foxholes of life far separate from the reality of the world. (insert Kate Smith singing God Bless America here!)

d

 

[dsee8driver]

I guess I wasn't the only one watching him talk on FOX or Cnn whichever it was and hoping his head would get splattered all over the screen by a sharpshooter. Talk about ratings then..

 

[Spidey]

Scrapdog,

That was a nice patriotic speech but it doesn't address reality. The terror war was ongoing long, long before 9/11. It's just that most people in this country only recognized that it was a current issue on 9/11 when it disrupted airline travel.

It's folks with extremist right wing views such as yourself that think we are engaging this reality with any degree of sense. I have paid attention to the commanding leaders of our forces and they are pretty clear that the orders they are bound to follow are not working and will not work. But as long as we wave Old Glory people like you will be happy in their foxholes of life far separate from the reality of the world. (insert Kate Smith singing God Bless America here!)

d

...and if we had people like you leading in the past, we'd all be speaking German and goose-stepping like sheep...you speak like a lamb who has no vision of the middle east and it's importance to our future safety...again, we'd soon all be speaking Mexican or be reading about cities blown away with blind leadership like you'd want...but that's why we defend people like you...for you freedom to speak...sleep tight tonight...and quit sucking your thumb...

 

[denny]

Spidey,

You are an extremist. You have no knowledge of my background, my service, my political leanings, my experience, my morals and values and I have no idea of yours. We both make broad generalizations of our fellow man.

From what you posted you are a knee jerk radical. You are an American jihadist which is really no different than an Arab jihadist.

We both fly ILS approaches the exact same way. We are pilots. I am not a politician nor a soldier and neither are you. I just find it ironic that most pilots are so extreme to the right when nothing in their career or personal lives warrants such political leanings.

I'll bet you are the first to ask for a ride report from center at 6 in the morning and want a 100 mile deviation around a 2 mile storm.

In life there are extremes. You are an extreme. I'll take my America over your twisted version of it any day.

D - small Texas town boy -(300 population) Friday night lights football and all that the Texas cowboy generation of my life entails - which is NOT EXTREME radical right Republicanism gone insane. Enjoy your life in this country and I'll enjoy mine.


Thanks ever so much for the interaction with an extremist. So much FUN! Just like goading Iranians! But they are so much more sensible than Americans except for their leadership and their religious leaders. Those people are truly weird and so are you!

 

[Scrapdog]

Spidey,

You are an extremist. You have no knowledge of my background, my service, my political leanings, my experience, my morals and values and I have no idea of yours. We both make broad generalizations of our fellow man.

From what you posted you are a knee jerk radical. You are an American jihadist which is really no different than an Arab jihadist.

We both fly ILS approaches the exact same way. We are pilots. I am not a politician nor a soldier and neither are you. I just find it ironic that most pilots are so extreme to the right when nothing in their career or personal lives warrants such political leanings.

I'll bet you are the first to ask for a ride report from center at 6 in the morning and want a 100 mile deviation around a 2 mile storm.

In life there are extremes. You are an extreme. I'll take my America over your twisted version of it any day.

D - small Texas town boy -(300 population) Friday night lights football and all that the Texas cowboy generation of my life entails - which is NOT EXTREME radical right Republicanism gone insane. Enjoy your life in this country and I'll enjoy mine.


Thanks ever so much for the interaction with an extremist. So much FUN! Just like goading Iranians! But they are so much more sensible than Americans except for their leadership and their religious leaders. Those people are truly weird and so are you!

Did anyone get anything out of that strange post except the fact that denny has never served his country? I sure didn't...

 

[denny]

Probably not! Hey. Politics is not a good topic for discussion. It is too personal. So I'll leave for it for whoever wants to have the last word. Whether or not I have served my country is immaterial. It does not make me any more or any less patriotic than any of the fine people who have participated in this discussion who may or may have not had the opportunity to serve.

d