Flow Through Is Done!

[quinnlake]

Piedmont, PSA, America West and US Airways came to agreement on Flow through talks today!

 

[FMEpilot]

Details?

 

[John Pennekamp]

Piedmont, PSA, America West and US Airways came to agreement on Flow through talks today!

Yeah. They're stapling Weedmont and PSA below the staple of the Mid Atlantic pilots, which is below the staple of the US Air furloughees, and below the America West newhires. Which means they'll all make narrow body captain in about 30 years Woo hoo!!!!

 

[Sig]

Weedmont! That's pretty good!

Stapling... I guess that's a good way of putting it. I can't imagine what kind of movement will occur, what with the average age of the USAirways list at 4.51 trillion years....

 

[Turtlesfly]

looks like the Colgan flow through to Pinnacle just reached a bump in the road, too.

 

[WSurf]

Yeah. They're stapling Weedmont and PSA below the staple of the Mid Atlantic pilots, which is below the staple of the US Air furloughees, and below the America West newhires. Which means they'll all make narrow body captain in about 30 years Woo hoo!!!!

What? Do you know the amount of folks retiring at US Airways (Avg age in the Cockpit is around 56)? I would say that in 10 years most of the people on the property now at the WO's will be Narrow Body Captains. Out of all the majors, US Airways would be the best choice due to all the retirements in the next 5-10 years.

I am sure once the details are announced the people that left might be the ones posting most of the negative comments.

 

[BoilerUP]

Out of all the majors, US Airways would be the best choice due to all the retirements in the next 5-10 years.

Doesn't seem like Airways has been the best choice for anybody since it bought Piedmont...

 

[Sig]

Doesn't seem like Airways has been the best choice for anybody since it bought Piedmont...

You know it, mang.

But I will say this: Our supreme instructor RM and I have the same idea; when someone in the airline industry says, "Done deal," it translates to "Bull Shtuff."

I have a dim view of what and why the USAirways pilots are attaching the flow through to, namely the implementation of the Nicolau award(ed) seniority game... if that's the case, anyway.

A light exists, I just hope it's not a train heading our way.

 

[MEL'ed]

Any references or written proof of this so far or is it just word of mouth for now? I have high hopes it will be good news for PDT pilots.

 

[WSurf]

Any references or written proof of this so far or is it just word of mouth for now? I have high hopes it will be good news for PDT pilots.

Should be something put out tomarrow. But like Quinnlake said, its a done deal. All party's (PSA, PDT, AWA, US Airways) signed off on it today.

 

[WSurf]

Doesn't seem like Airways has been the best choice for anybody since it bought Piedmont...

Now that is very true!

 

[ATA75Pilot]

Wow - I guess when they told me in 1989 when I started that the flow-thru was just around the corner....they weren't kidding!

 

[jellynuts]

great success!! but i'm positive that there will be some kind of metering. but i guess some flow is better than no flow, maybe now i can upgrade before the turn of the century!!

 

[suupah]

congrats guys! you deserve some good news!

 

[nethan]

Should be something put out tomarrow. But like Quinnlake said, its a done deal. All party's (PSA, PDT, AWA, US Airways) signed off on it today.

While I'd very much like to believe that it is in fact a done deal (and haven't we been hearing that for several years now), PSA wasn't there today so "all party's" couldn't have signed it. Unless one of them was able to sneak away, our MEC, or merger chair and our negotiating chair were all flying the line and couldn't get released by the company to go.

 

[Crzipilot]

dunno..saw the PSA chair in the crew room today around noon or so. But it seems that PDT has been more on the ball pushing the flow through than PSA..... Maybe they came to agreement and just PSA Chair proxied his concerns and such????

I supported the idea and process of a complete flow through, though I hope there is some sort of screening process up and down to make this whole thing a little more bearable for both sides...

 

[siucavflight]

Congrats guys, good news for you.

 

[crxpilot]

What you all really need to be asking is what is the Flow Back? I havent seen a flow thru that was all its cracked up to be, but I have seen them work great in reverse! Just ask the eagle pilots.

 

[siucavflight]

What you all really need to be asking is what is the Flow Back? I havent seen a flow thru that was all its cracked up to be, but I have seen them work great in reverse! Just ask the eagle pilots.

Yes, they do work great in reverse! But looking like it might just work out for us at Eagle in the end.

 

[WSurf]

While I'd very much like to believe that it is in fact a done deal (and haven't we been hearing that for several years now), PSA wasn't there today so "all party's" couldn't have signed it. Unless one of them was able to sneak away, our MEC, or merger chair and our negotiating chair were all flying the line and couldn't get released by the company to go.

PSA couldn't get there folks there due to management not allowing the time off, so PDT in turn represented the PSA folks. US Airways at first decided to not show, but after they found out the meeting was gonna go on without them (US WEST/PDT)........ well, they then decided they better show up.

There is flowback also! Not sure on the details, but there is protection for the folks that don't want to flowup and remain at PSA/PDT.

Shhhhh... Don't let GreyGhost know about the flowthru! He left PDT to fly that big shiney 170 for peanuts, and since he left has been on FI bashing the Hell out of the PDT pilots and Comany!!

GreyGhost????? You Like Apples?????