Severe Icing Question

[dal757]

If you were asked in an interview what you would do in an RJ if you got into severe icing? How would you answer this question? I was shocked when a friend of mine answered and the response he got...

 

[Flyer1015]

Isn't severe icing defined by something along the lines of icing that's beyond the capability of being removed by your airplane's anti icing system?

I'd imagine the 'answer' would be to turn on wing, cowl, probe anti ice and attempt to leave the severe icing conditions by climbing/descending or turning (as appropriate) to get out of the severe icing area.

Tell me how your friend answered, and tell me the response he got???

 

[bizzum]

If you were asked in an interview what you would do in an RJ if you got into severe icing? How would you answer this question? I was shocked when a friend of mine answered and the response he got...

Get the hell out of it!

 

[Twisted Mind]

I would tell them to follow company policy followed by get the hell out of it ASAP!

 

[Sawmill]

Climb so you are closer to the sun. You are screwed if its night time.

 

[ohplease!]

Climb so you are closer to the sun. You are screwed if its night time.

you are kidding, right?

 

[DirkkDiggler]

Isn't severe icing defined by something along the lines of icing that's beyond the capability of being removed by your airplane's anti icing system?

Actually, I believe the definition is "beyond the capbility of the de-icing equipment of your aircraft." With anti-icing in an RJ, you would not accumulate ice except perhaps on the nose cone, winglets, and tail. The wings are 107 degrees C so there is no ice building on them. Ask for a new altitude. Things should change within a couple thousand feet.

 

[Dirty Sanchez]

When the windshields start accumulating ice, you know it is severe. Get out.

 

[Dumb Pilot]

Fly in the Caribbean, case closed.

 

[Thedude]

With anti-icing in an RJ, you would not accumulate ice except perhaps on the nose cone, winglets, and tail. The wings are 107 degrees C so there is no ice building on them.

Spoken by someone that has probably never even seen moderate icing.

 

[Papps]

severe icing will coat your entire RJ with a nice half inch of nastiness everywhere. Including that awsome stuff that slides back over the top of the wing past the leading edges (the leading edges will get alittle but stay respectably clear). side windows will be opaque. windshields will have tunnel vision and your radar will be worthless. And that will happen in an extremely short amount of time.

 

[Windsor]

I'd keep on truckin. icing is only temporary. if yur side window clogs up, no biggie man, you can clean it at the nest stop. i'd tell the interviewer that icing is my beeotch and theres nothing to worry about. besides, if you dont hire me, ASA will.

 

[dojetdriver]

How does severe icing deal with Chuck Norris?

That is the more important question.

 

[atrdriver]

Actually, I believe the definition is "beyond the capbility of the de-icing equipment of your aircraft." With anti-icing in an RJ, you would not accumulate ice except perhaps on the nose cone, winglets, and tail. The wings are 107 degrees C so there is no ice building on them. Ask for a new altitude. Things should change within a couple thousand feet.

Are you even AWARE of which surfaces on an RJ are de-iced? If you are and you think that severe icing won't affect it's ability to stay in the air then you need to go back to training.

I got into severe in an ATR once that had the windshield completely covered in less than 10 seconds, and within a minute we were at MCT power at, 185 knots, descending at 2500/minute. We lost about 10,000 feet before we shed enough of it just to level off.

 

[say again]

Of course I'd put all the anti/de-ice on. And a smart pilot, if it was severe, would get the hell out. Climb, descend, turn, pray, whatever it takes to get out!!!

 

[AWACoff]

Thank god the tail of the Canadair is anti-iced/de-iced at 107 degrees celsius...

 

[AvroJockey]

Thank god the tail of the Canadair is anti-iced/de-iced at 107 degrees celsius...

I've never flown the CRJ, but I know something funny when I see it!

 

[wmuflyguy]

Thank god the tail of the Canadair is anti-iced/de-iced at 107 degrees celsius...

Just watch your head on the walkaround, wouldn't want to get knocked out from a falling piece of ice.

 

[Sawmill]

you are kidding, right?

My turn: You are kidding you ask me if I am kidding, right?

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

My turn: You are kidding you ask me if I am kidding, right?

I would say that's a negatory, good buddy. Are you Icarus, or something?

 

[Sawmill]

I would say that's a negatory, good buddy. Are you Icarus, or something?

Now thats just plain stupid! No where in the NTSB Findings does it state anything about Icarus experiencing icing before the accident!
For those of you who think I was serious about climbing to get closer to the sun, please go buy a sence of humor or some common sence with your CA pay.

 

[AV8700]

How does severe icing deal with Chuck Norris?

That is the more important question.

T-45 Anti Icing Capabilities: Pitot Heat, 5th Stage Bleed Air, Chuck Norris

 

[trip]

Ice see's Chuck Norris and melts in his wake. No problem.

 

[Say Again Over]

For those of you who think I was serious about climbing to get closer to the sun, please go buy a sence of humor or some common sence with your CA pay

I thought it was great, much better than most of the responses!

 

[AiRegency]

Severe icing on the CRJ is defined as ice accumulating on the side windows. This is your clue that it might be exceeding the capability of your anti-icing equipment. Start with turning your windshield heat to "HIGH". Then climb or descend to get out of it. While doing this follow the QRH ice despersal procedure. It is as follows:

1. Airspeed............................................. INCREASE TO V
MO
/M
MO
IF POSSIBLE, TO DISPERSE ICE
Ice accumulation on wing leading edge still present:
2. Maneuvering Speed ........................ NOT LESS THAN 200 KIAS
Prior to landing:
3. Approach Speed ............ NOT LESS THAN V
REF (FLAPS 45°)
+30
4. GRND PROX, FLAP........................................................... OVRD
5. Approach and Landing Flaps.................................................... 20°
6. Actual landing distance is increased by a factor of:
Without Thrust Reversers - 65%
With Thrust Reversers - 50%
NOTE:
LAHSO operations are not authorized with this failure.
At 50 feet AGL:
7. Thrust Levers......................................................................... IDLE
AND DO NOT PROLONG
THE LANDING FLARE
WARNING
Even small accumulations of ice on the wing leading
edge can change the stall speed or stall characteristics
or warning margins.
— END —
2. No further Pilot action.
— — — END — — —​

If that doesn't satisfy them then tell em to f*** off. They wouldn't pay you enough anyway.​

 

[BoilerUP]

Thank god the tail of the Canadair is anti-iced/de-iced at 107 degrees celsius...

If the CRJ reacts anything like a Beechjet in a tailplane stall, it would right up there on the "Please God, don't let this ever happen to me" list.

 

[acaTerry]

No where in the NTSB Findings does it state anything about Icarus experiencing icing before the accident!

Ah, if you read more carefully...

"...the safety bard has concluded probable cause as failure to maintain directionl control. Contibuting factors were 1) proximity to the sun and 2) low quality wax in the feather assemblies".

 

[Papps]

Ah, if you read more carefully...

"...the safety bard has concluded probable cause as failure to maintain directionl control. Contibuting factors were 1) proximity to the sun and 2) low quality wax in the feather assemblies".

Thats more NTSB BS. Everyone knows he was fatigued.

 

[Turtlesfly]

He couldn't call in sick he'd already used up too many for the moon cycle

 

[601Pilot]

If you were asked in an interview what you would do in an RJ if you got into severe icing? How would you answer this question? I was shocked when a friend of mine answered and the response he got...

Here at ASA, we would just send out the drunk flight attendant to pour some JD on it.