SIC type - please let your interviewers know

[igneousy2]

Recently completed an interview at Southwest and the interviewer was befuddled with the concept of an "SIC type"...I wrote this response to someone else that was questioning the "SIC type" so I thought i'd start another thread.

found this on-line.

The final rule requires pilots who
plan to fly outside U.S. airspace and
land in foreign countries to obtain the
SIC pilot type rating. We also
recommend having the SIC pilot type
rating when flying over or into airspace
controlled by a foreign civil aviation
authority that requires it. This would
include not only flights to foreign
destinations, but also flights where there
is the potential to land in a foreign
country (for example, a flight from
Newark, NJ to Anchorage, AK that
crosses Canadian airspace could result
in an emergency landing in Canada).

Here is the link to the entire document...

http://web.nbaa.org/public/ops/sic/F...630_05-113.pdf


Thanks

 

[Dirty Sanchez]

I thought having to pay for a type rating to sit in the right seat at Southwest was "SIC type"...

 

[scudrunner]

So, is it considered a type to SWA?

 

[XLR8]

He/She might not be talking about a 737 SIC type. The company I used to work for gave out CL-65 SIC type ratings...that could be what the interviewer was questioning.

 

[tico]

Recently completed an interview at Southwest and the interviewer was befuddled with the concept of an "SIC type"...I wrote this response to someone else that was questioning the "SIC type" so I thought i'd start another thread.

found this on-line.

The final rule requires pilots who
plan to fly outside U.S. airspace and
land in foreign countries to obtain the
SIC pilot type rating. We also
recommend having the SIC pilot type
rating when flying over or into airspace
controlled by a foreign civil aviation
authority that requires it. This would
include not only flights to foreign
destinations, but also flights where there
is the potential to land in a foreign
country (for example, a flight from
Newark, NJ to Anchorage, AK that
crosses Canadian airspace could result
in an emergency landing in Canada).

Here is the link to the entire document...

http://web.nbaa.org/public/ops/sic/F...630_05-113.pdf


Thanks

Probably as long as you dont list it as a type rating no one will be befuddled by it.....you would not want to to tell an interviewer that you ar typed in a 737 or typed in a crj if all you have is a rubber stamp sic type....It is not a type rating in the sense that type ratings are talked about......

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

SWA hasn't heard of SIC types? Maybe because its an international thing.

Still, too bad the interviewer was so out of touch with the aviation world outside of SWA.

 

[igneousy2]

Probably as long as you dont list it as a type rating no one will be befuddled by it.....you would not want to to tell an interviewer that you ar typed in a 737 or typed in a crj if all you have is a rubber stamp sic type....It is not a type rating in the sense that type ratings are talked about......

I have a DC-9 "SIC type" and when he looked at the copy of my certificate it said "type ratings DC-9" and he wanted to know why I didn't list it. You have to look further on the certificate to see that it is only an "SIC type". It wasn't a big deal but any snags at this stage of an interview can be a little disconcerting for the interviewee. Anyway not a huge deal - just trying to make people aware.

The way they have it on your certificate - technically it is a "DC-9" type rating with a "SIC only" limitation. If the person has several limitations on their certificates (as I do) then you have to look at it a little more carefully to ascertain that it is only a "SIC type" as opposed to a full type.

Later

 

[328dude]

Most of the guys that interview are retired, so yea, they are a little out of touch.

 

[klr1395]

I have a DC-9 "SIC type" and when he looked at the copy of my certificate it said "type ratings DC-9" and he wanted to know why I didn't list it. You have to look further on the certificate to see that it is only an "SIC type". It wasn't a big deal but any snags at this stage of an interview can be a little disconcerting for the interviewee. Anyway not a huge deal - just trying to make people aware.

The way they have it on your certificate - technically it is a "DC-9" type rating with a "SIC only" limitation. If the person has several limitations on their certificates (as I do) then you have to look at it a little more carefully to ascertain that it is only a "SIC type" as opposed to a full type.

Later

That makes good sense. It also explains why someone with a B737 type with a SIC only restriction would befuddle an interviewer. There is only 1 restriction/limitation on a B737 type that SWA will accept.... Straight from their website, "
1The only restriction or limitation SWA will accept is "B-737 CIRC. APCH. - VMC ONLY"

Cheers, klr

 

[rigger]

This is another FAA FUBR.

There is no such thing as an SIC type rating. There is such a thing as a Type rating with SIC only privileges, this is what is being handed out. So based on this yes you do indeed have a type rating it is just limited to SIC only.

As such, list it on your apps I have, and have never been questioned about it, but I do list it as a type rating not as a SIC type. They look at my ticket and never question it.

All that said I do have an ATP. perhaps that make a diff. to the interviewer?