XJ CRJ200 not all going to MSP

[xjhawk]

Just heard in recurrent ground from Ron J that NWA realised that because of a lack of a flaps 8 issue the planes might not be suitable for being based in MSP. I guess that they are making a decision whether to retro fit the aircraft and basing them in msp so they can be suitable for the western flying as they envisioned. He said the decision will be in days, not weeks.

 

[pilotdiscretion]

I wouldn't be surprised to hear that NWA ordered Pinnacle to take the flaps 8 components from some of Pinnacles airplanes and transfer them to Mesaba. Northwest pays a hefty sum to Bombardier for each airplane that has flaps 8. They pay for the lift capabilities, not the actual parts and 30 minutes of labor to install the three parts. By taking away flaps eight from one airplane and giving it to another airplane they don't pay any more money.

That and Pinnacles history of trying to run airplanes in the mountains surrounding HLN.

 

[DoinTime]

I wouldn't be surprised to hear that NWA ordered Pinnacle to take the flaps 8 components from some of Pinnacles airplanes and transfer them to Mesaba. Northwest pays a hefty sum to Bombardier for each airplane that has flaps 8. They pay for the lift capabilities, not the actual parts and 30 minutes of labor to install the three parts. By taking away flaps eight from one airplane and giving it to another airplane they don't pay any more money.

Its actually the other way around. The airplanes that are earmarked to go to Mesaba came with flaps 8 but we transfered them to other airplanes that we are keeping.

 

[OCP]

Some of the 200s don't have a flaps 8 setting?

 

[OttoPilot]

Some of the 200s don't have a flaps 8 setting?

At this point we only have one 200 and it DOES have a flaps 8 setting.

 

[xjhawk]

Its actually the other way around. The airplanes that are earmarked to go to Mesaba came with flaps 8 but we transfered them to other airplanes that we are keeping.

Wll just remember those are not your planes, NWA can do with them what they want (the Avros were not XJ's, and look how quick those left, oh and also the CRj's we were suppose to get before bankruptcy) NWA can just say.......give us back those parts.............9E says....okay.....done deal.

 

[flyboyike]

Some of the 200s don't have a flaps 8 setting?

Correct, not even a flaps 8 detent.

 

[DoinTime]

Wll just remember those are not your planes, NWA can do with them what they want (the Avros were not XJ's, and look how quick those left, oh and also the CRj's we were suppose to get before bankruptcy) NWA can just say.......give us back those parts.............9E says....okay.....done deal.

They are not our planes but the flap 8 mods were purchased by PCL. We will do whatever we please with our flaps thank you.

 

[xjhawk]

If you guys at 9E treat your CRJ's like you did your saabs, they will be hardly air worthy like the Saab A models were when NWA took them from you. Keep it up and they will take more from you........you be rude, I will be rude........how many airframes have your pilots wrecked?

 

[kmox29]

Those "A" models taxied like a dream though...

 

[OttoPilot]

If you guys at 9E treat your CRJ's like you did your saabs, they will be hardly air worthy like the Saab A models were when NWA took them from you. Keep it up and they will take more from you........you be rude, I will be rude........how many airframes have your pilots wrecked?

Please find another pilot group to represent if you want to be rude!

 

[big shacks]

now now settle down boys and girls. This isn't a 9e vs xj battle.

 

[i fly boxes]

this post is not to start a war of any kind of all, this is just a question of curiosity. In class we heard from one of our union guys say that mesaba might not be able to accept the 200's or just not accept all of them because of staffing issues dealing with accepting the 900's and attrition. Has anyone at mesaba been hearing this? We cant staff them as it is so i was just curiuos

 

[DoinTime]

If you guys at 9E treat your CRJ's like you did your saabs, they will be hardly air worthy like the Saab A models were when NWA took them from you. Keep it up and they will take more from you........you be rude, I will be rude........how many airframes have your pilots wrecked?

Let me get this straight. You started this thread with a rumor that the CRJ-200's were not going to come to Mesaba with flaps 8. When you recived confirmation of this rumor you retorted with the implication that XJ will get flaps 8 whether PCL likes it or not, how our pilots suck, and that we don't maintain our aircraft. Now I'm the a**hole?

You are a piece of work. I propose that XJHawk gets his own forum so that he can talk to himself.

 

[ataopsdave]

The word around 9E is that XJ will take the initial 2 in September but have pushed back the other 13 indefinitely due to staffing issues...looks like Pinnacle will babysit the airplanes until XJ can accept them