Scumbag cargo company Hall of Shame

[Windsor]

I think its about time to start a Hall of Shame for all the crap cargo outfits out there. You know the ones I'm talking about. The ones that treat their pilots like dirt. The ones people should avoid if they have any self respect, ect, ect, ect.

enjoy.

 

[freighthumper]

I dont think there is a cargo company or airline in existence that wouldnt be on that list at one time or another.

 

[RefugePilot]

UPS,

No wait they treat their pilots well, its just their subcontractors they they treat like Cr@p.

 

[pilotyip]

When pilots are treated like crap it is their duty to find another job.

 

[Justthefacts]

Ameristar should be at the top of that list...... I feel bad for any young kid who goes there thinking he is doing something good.....

 

[Batfish]

Not a lot of positives flowing from Air Tahoma, or Skyway (in Florida). Batfish

 

[Batfish]

When pilots are treated like crap it is their duty to find another job.

Speaking of which pilotyip, how is the attrition at USA Jet? Anyone deciding to get out of the on demand business on your side of the field? Batfish

P.S not saying you treat anyone like crap, I was refering to the finding another job part of your post.

 

[OzBushWhacker]

T'would be good if the UPS Pilots and/or their union stood up for the feeder pilots.

 

[pilotyip]

Turnover at USA is running about double of what it was a year ago, but well below what it was in 1999-2001. It is expected, we are a stop in a career path. A place to pay your dues. Average pilot has been here for almost six years. It is manageable turnover; we have no training contract and are filling our classes. Everyone has left for what could be described as a better job, although is it a much lower pay to start.

 

[stupidpilot]

Ameristar should be at the top of that list...... I feel bad for any young kid who goes there thinking he is doing something good.....

DING,DING,DING,DING,DING give that man a cigar!!!!!!! He just gave the correct answer to the $54,0000 question!

 

[Windsor]

Ameristar should be at the top of that list...... I feel bad for any young kid who goes there thinking he is doing something good.....

Heard one of the new hires turned down Flex to take the job at Ameristar......DOH!!!!!!!!

 

[Steve]

How about AirNow. They've crashed a few in the last 5 years and forced a pilot to fly a Bandit with a broken AI.

 

[AngelKing]

How about AirNow. They've crashed a few in the last 5 years and forced a pilot to fly a Bandit with a broken AI.

What did they do, hold a gun to his head?


AK

 

[Captain Morgan]

I call BS on that Airnow AI forced flight thing. They may have had a few mishaps but they're not stupid.

 

[Orville Wrong]

T'would be good if the UPS Pilots and/or their union stood up for the feeder pilots.

Uhhh....yeah right. I don't think you'll find any pilot group or company in this industry that stands up for pilots/employees of their contractors.

 

[thunderworm]

i would throw empire into the hat as a company pilots should stay away from.

 

[PHXFLYR]

Turnover at USA is running about double of what it was a year ago, but well below what it was in 1999-2001. It is expected, we are a stop in a career path. A place to pay your dues. Average pilot has been here for almost six years. It is manageable turnover; we have no training contract and are filling our classes. Everyone has left for what could be described as a better job, although is it a much lower pay to start.

Hmmmm......in one post you advocate leaving if you're treated like 'crap' and in this one you kind of hint around that you should put up with it so as not to take a pay cut. Which one is it ?? And by the way, how much is your attrition running you per year in training costs?? Seems to me that with a fleet of DA20's and DC9's that can't be cheap and you would want to keep those as low as possible. You try to justify this by saying that your company is just a stop along the way in a pilots career path. Maybe so. But the same could be said about Fed Ex when they were operating Falcon freighters years ago just like you are today. Difference is Ol'Fred Smith decided to make his company a place where a pilot would want to hang his hat. What about you? What do you want to make out of your company?


PHXFLYR

 

[Draginass]

Duplicate post.

 

[Draginass]

Now wait a minute. I think nominations should be justified with some specifics such as, but no limited to:

1. Crewmember attrition
2. Quality of training
3. Scheduling
4. Maintenance, quality of aircraft, cleanliness
5. Pay problems (slow pay, no pay, etc)
6. Trustworthiness and ethics of company leadership and supervisors, response of DO to operational problems, recognition of Captain's authority, etc.
7. General quality of crew force (alcoholics, marginal pilots, willingness of chief pilot/DO to enforce standards, etc)
8. Commuting (quantity/quality of jumpseat agreements, etc)
9. Dispatch/Flight Following competence and support
10. General morale among crew force
11. Quality of ACMI contracts (if applicable)

I'm sure you can think of many more criteria.

 

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