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rhino3040

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I heard through the grape vine that many higher senior people are staying well clear of the Q400. And the published list shows it up through 135 or so. Any of those listed more senior than 135 would be willing to share the reasons as to why and if those listed are going to deny it later can comment any thoughts.
 
What are the Colgan guys getting paid on the Q?
 
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Would be tuff to live in Newark on that! But a crash pad in cracktown with about 10 people might work!

So I believe many of them are saying Thanks, but no thanks!!!
 
looks like its time to get some representation. Those rates are horrible!!
 
$43 for a 3-year captain on a Saab is nothing short of stealing from your employees. Thankfully I left before upgrading there
 
the Q sucks...pay sucks...life sucks...the lies suck....the kool-aid kids suck...not being alpa sucks...the northeast sucks...etc
 
Superpilot92 said:
looks like its time to get some representation. Those rates are horrible!!
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Do you really think that ALPA is going to have leverage on the payscales? Commuter policies, etc. I'm not saying it won't help, but being PRO ALPA, i'm trying to think of some time frame before its voted in and a true change to some of this bull $hit that everyone is yappin about will take place.
 
rhino3040 said:
Do you really think that ALPA is going to have leverage on the payscales? Commuter policies, etc. I'm not saying it won't help, but being PRO ALPA, i'm trying to think of some time frame before its voted in and a true change to some of this bull $hit that everyone is yappin about will take place.
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Strike fast and hard. Come up with some realistic work rules maybe a small raise and your in the ball park. I think that's all anyone asks. The company want's you to go all out for them. They say thanks for the hard work, thanks for going above and beyond. Well it's time to get paid. You need to reap the rewards for years of hard work.
 
rhino3040 said:
I heard through the grape vine that many higher senior people are staying well clear of the Q400. And the published list shows it up through 135 or so. Any of those listed more senior than 135 would be willing to share the reasons as to why and if those listed are going to deny it later can comment any thoughts.
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What is considered senior at Colgan? Three years?
 
Thug Life said:
Strike fast and hard. Come up with some realistic work rules maybe a small raise and your in the ball park. I think that's all anyone asks. The company want's you to go all out for them. They say thanks for the hard work, thanks for going above and beyond. Well it's time to get paid. You need to reap the rewards for years of hard work.
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Good call! I don't think anyone has pie-in-the-sky ideas about pay at CJC. A realistic / competitive raise would be good. Work rules are KEY however.

I think CJC pilots will continue to work very hard as long as their efforts are rewarded.
 
Well im seniority 175 and july 12 will be the beggining of the 3rd year. I'd say an average senior guy would be just short of 4 years
 
The crack house could be a good thing, at least while you're smoking it, your job and payscale would seem great!!!
 
How long has PCL been in negotiations with PCL mgmt about a better contract? Why doesnt anyone at CJC think that ALPA will clear the cloudy skies and make things better. PCL will drag out contract talks as long as possible. They will fight every issue. Even if they give some small raise (doubtful) they will not give in to other demands. Are the CJC pilots ready to strike for a low budget t-prop regional? If you are there more than 4 years, you are probably not desirable for a quality company, time for a new career. Unless you were one of the many pilots out there that got a degree in aviation. May God have mercy on your souls.
 
Yeah first month online 22 months total, first choice of base and weekends off, Sat, Sun and Mon. Things could be better but damn weekends off and base of choice daddy likes
 
CoolSidePillow said:
How long has PCL been in negotiations with PCL mgmt about a better contract? Why doesnt anyone at CJC think that ALPA will clear the cloudy skies and make things better. PCL will drag out contract talks as long as possible. They will fight every issue. Even if they give some small raise (doubtful) they will not give in to other demands. Are the CJC pilots ready to strike for a low budget t-prop regional? If you are there more than 4 years, you are probably not desirable for a quality company, time for a new career. Unless you were one of the many pilots out there that got a degree in aviation. May God have mercy on your souls.
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So you are saying that if you are at Colgan for more that a few years you are not employable, that you are a scumbag. I have read your posts. You have no clue about the real world. You are were more that likely one of those pay for training pilot's Colgan hired back in 04. You sir are a disgrace to the industry.
 
Thug Life said:
So you are saying that if you are at Colgan for more that a few years you are not employable, that you are a scumbag. I have read your posts. You have no clue about the real world. You are were more that likely one of those pay for training pilot's Colgan hired back in 04. You sir are a disgrace to the industry.
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I dont recall using the word scumbag. I also did not pay for CJC training. I came with an ATP, and real world experience both in and out of aviation. There are quite a number of pilots at CJC that have been around awhile, and are not employable. That is just a fact. They either have bad backgrounds, are complete rednecks, or they just dont have the contacts to move forward. That is too bad. Dont call me sir, that sounds so stupid. You wish you have had the kind of success, and peer respect that I have had in this industry. So shut your mouth, or I will gladly shut it for you.
 
CoolSidePillow said:
If you are there more than 4 years, you are probably not desirable for a quality company
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Dude. What??

What, exactly qualifies as a "quality" company?
 
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Those rates SUCK

Seriously, what's the attraction of flying for Colgan if 500-600 hour pilots are getting hired onto COEX and Pinnacle ERJ/CRJs? It doesn't make much sense to me unless you couldn't pass an interview at the other regionals. Can you get PIC time quicker? A rational person would look at all of the options and I doubt Colgan is one of the "better" options out there.......
 
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Seriously, what's the attraction of flying for Colgan if 500-600 hour pilots are getting hired onto COEX and Pinnacle ERJ/CRJs? It doesn't make much sense to me unless you couldn't pass an interview at the other regionals. Can you get PIC time quicker? A rational person would look at all of the options and I doubt Colgan is one of the "better" options out there.......
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