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initialcfi

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Is Flex just hiring for the DFW area base? A friend of mine just applied, and they responded back by saying that he met the requirements for a first officer position in the DFW area. I told him to call HR or just go if he's called for the interview, and find out if he could bid for another base if he was selected for employment. Also, how does it work for commuters who drive to thier base? I live about two and a half hours from one, so would I have to get a hotel that's within 1 and a half hours distance by midnight of my show time? Thanks.
 
initialcfi said:
Is Flex just hiring for the DFW area base? A friend of mine just applied, and they responded back by saying that he met the requirements for a first officer position in the DFW area. I told him to call HR or just go if he's called for the interview, and find out if he could bid for another base if he was selected for employment. Also, how does it work for commuters who drive to thier base? I live about two and a half hours from one, so would I have to get a hotel that's within 1 and a half hours distance by midnight of my show time? Thanks.
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Unless it has changed, right now they are hiring for all gateways. And your assumption is correct on your second question.
 
Another question or two:

I live in Miami, where would I report? PBI, FLL, MIA??

I seem to meet the requirements other than a type in their product, and have kept up the online app. for years, but no call. Should I just fax a resume to KP directly?

Thanks

Hung
 
A fax to KP would yield the quickest response, yes. As far as which airport you are responsible for reporting to on Day 1.... the answer is open as to whereever the plane you are assigned to is, then that's where you will go. If you were assigned to an aircraft out of base, then airlining out of FLL is the norm, unless MIA has a cheaper fare, then you could request it.
 
initialcfi said:
Is Flex just hiring for the DFW area base? A friend of mine just applied, and they responded back by saying that he met the requirements for a first officer position in the DFW area. I told him to call HR or just go if he's called for the interview, and find out if he could bid for another base if he was selected for employment. Also, how does it work for commuters who drive to thier base? I live about two and a half hours from one, so would I have to get a hotel that's within 1 and a half hours distance by midnight of my show time? Thanks.
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Most of our bases have airlines who have bases there so you can find a crashpad fairly easy.

Bailey
 
Hung Start said:
Another question or two:

I live in Miami, where would I report? PBI, FLL, MIA??

I seem to meet the requirements other than a type in their product, and have kept up the online app. for years, but no call. Should I just fax a resume to KP directly?

Thanks

Hung
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98% of my trips start in FLL or PBI every now and then I am sent to MIA, BCT or OPA to pick up planes.

Bailey
 
I am EWR based and the majority of my trips start in TEB. Up here we don't airline that much to start a trip. Of my last 6 trips (can't remember farther back than that and to lazy to look it up) I started in TEB and ended with an airline to EWR. Every once in a while they have me start out in HPN and I have only started in LGA once, and that was to pick up an aircraft. We get an extra hour call out if we have to go anywhere besides EWR, so living north doesn't help you much. But then again it too expensive to live up here thats why I am going to DFW
 
I feel sorry for the guys that are FLL based. They are asked to drive all over the dang state for duty practically. I hear they asked someone to drive to Naples on their first day one time, that's not right.
 
Doyle, how does that work? I understand that PBI is the "official" domicile, so if the pickup point changes constantly, how do recover your car? Do they rent you one? Do you just automaticly go to your domicile every time?
That would be a bit silly, not mention tiring, to drive from Miami to PBI, only to be told to rent a car and drive to Opa Locka to meet the plane!
I can understand that crewing needs may change, but driving my own car all over the state just seems wasteful.

Hung
 
You don't report to a domicile and then move on to where the aircraft is located. You just go to where the plane sits. I'm DFW based and if they tell me to go to DFW, Addison, Meachem or wherever that's where you go. You are given extra driving time if the assigned airport is other than your gateway airport. As for the long drives, just rent a car and expense it to the company or take a sedan if it's not too terribly far. They'll pay you back for it.
 
DirtyBeech said:
You don't report to a domicile and then move on to where the aircraft is located. You just go to where the plane sits. I'm DFW based and if they tell me to go to DFW, Addison, Meachem or wherever that's where you go. You are given extra driving time if the assigned airport is other than your gateway airport. As for the long drives, just rent a car and expense it to the company or take a sedan if it's not too terribly far. They'll pay you back for it.
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Would you be willing to drive to Austin for work every rotation? Not me.

Think about this: You're based in ONT. They tell you on your first day to drive to Bermuda Dunes. On your last day, they airline you to Burbank. Now you have to sedan back to Bermuda Dunes and then get in your car and drive back to your house. So, saying "just rent a car and expense it" doesn't mean everything is ok just because you're not out any money. To me, this is totally unfair for the guys that live there. If you're based in PBI and they ask you to drive to Tampa, that is unacceptable to me personally. That has to stop.
 
Take it up with the upcoming CAB meeting doyle. Is Bermuda Dunes far from ONT? If so then rent a car there. If not then who cares?
 
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Take it up with the upcoming CAB meeting doyle. Is Bermuda Dunes far from ONT? If so then rent a car there. If not then who cares?
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To me, this is one of the problems at flex. It's not management, it's the pilots that have the attitude that if it doesn't affect them personally, they don't care.
Personally this doesn't affect me; however, it needs to be addressed. Also, I personally could care less about having more bases but, if others want it then I will help in getting more bases. This is the direction we need to take, not selfish attitudes.
 
Does Flex at least give you guys a company credit card to pay for things like rental cars in these instances? I'm sure they'd be quick on reimbursement, but I just hate the thought of running up my cc for company business. Just another question for me to ponder.
 
I have driven to Naples, Lakeland, Tampa so far but they rented me a car and the drive time went against my duty time. The best was when they wanted me to drive to Tampa, so I was told to call when I left home for a 6am show. I called at 1230am to tell them I was leaving for Tampa since it was 5 hour dirve. SO basically that day I did a leg to IAH pulled off replaced and spent the rest of the day in a Hotel.
SO yes in South Florida you will drive between airports but if the are other then BCT, PBI, FLL, MIA you will rent a car or be flown to the A/C.

Bailey
 
Yes you get a company credit card.

I was based on ONT for a year and about 80% of my trips began and ended at ONT. It was rare, for me anyway, to be asked to report to one of the other airports.

We need more bases. I dont understand why it is such a big deal.
 
pilotpat said:
Does Flex at least give you guys a company credit card to pay for things like rental cars in these instances? I'm sure they'd be quick on reimbursement, but I just hate the thought of running up my cc for company business. Just another question for me to ponder.
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Get a good CC that offers rewards and you can rack up. depending on how quick you are to fill out your expense report will determine how fast you get your money. Usually takes 1 week. Never had any problems.
 
doylehargraves said:
To me, this is one of the problems at flex. It's not management, it's the pilots that have the attitude that if it doesn't affect them personally, they don't care.
Personally this doesn't affect me; however, it needs to be addressed. Also, I personally could care less about having more bases but, if others want it then I will help in getting more bases. This is the direction we need to take, not selfish attitudes.
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It's not selfish at all. It's a choose not to b-tch about every little thing attitude. If they pay for the rent car, and the travel counts against your duty time then what does it matter? You get paid the same regardless of whether you're driving a Ford Fusion or a business jet. I've got a few complaints, namely the crew catering, but driving to the jet isn't one of them.
 
The problem is, they do not care. You should not have to drive to any of the airports that are not listed in the FOM. If they can't get the aircraft to your base, why is it my problem now. The pilots at Flex need to just say no. After 4 or 5 days on the road why would I want to drive from apf to fll to get back to my car..
 
Av8tor said:
The problem is, they do not care. You should not have to drive to any of the airports that are not listed in the FOM. If they can't get the aircraft to your base, why is it my problem now. The pilots at Flex need to just say no. After 4 or 5 days on the road why would I want to drive from apf to fll to get back to my car..
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It is your choice to drive or not but if you are not leaving out of FLL, MIA, BCT or MIA you are provided transportation and when you return you will be flown back into FLL. So if you rent a car to drive to Naples then your car will be in FLL so when you finish you are flown back to FLL where your car is. Now if you do not want to drive they are more then willing to let you take a cab or a sedan to Naples or some of the other airports in south and southwest Florida so you do have a choice.

Bailey
 
Av8tor said:
The problem is, they do not care. You should not have to drive to any of the airports that are not listed in the FOM. If they can't get the aircraft to your base, why is it my problem now. The pilots at Flex need to just say no. After 4 or 5 days on the road why would I want to drive from apf to fll to get back to my car..
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So instead of driving you get a cab or sedan. Once again, they'll get you to where you need to be, on their dime, within your duty limitations. What does it matter? A little maturity folks....
 
Mr Beech,

So what you are saying is that you would be perfectly fine with driving a rent car from dallas to houston every single week as long as they paid for it? How about Dallas to Corpus every week? And no, thats not stretching it because you say you're mature enough to get by all that. Forget maturity, lets be smart here; it's not smart for the company to waste 6 hours of duty time on me driving. Like someone else said, if its not within 30 minutes of my gateway, I shouldn't have to make the drive. If they want me to sit in a sedan from Dallas to Houston and waste $600 to get to work then that's just plain ignorant.
 
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First of all, it doesn't happen every single week, so let's be just a little objective. And yes a drive to CRP is stretching it as that's a 7-8 hour drive. How many of our CA of FL are being asked to do that? I know hyperbole serves your purpose doyle, but get a grip. Even a 5 hour drive would leave you 9 hours of duty or 11 if it's your last day, so the argument of $600 to get you to work is quite ignorant as there's ample time left to fly you.

And I ask you, since you've determined that it's not smart for the company to waste 6 hours of your duty time, what is cheaper? You renting a car and "wasting" 6 hours of your duty time, or repositioning a business jet for an hour's flight? It's not all about you.
 
Choice between 2-3 legs on day one, or driving till I run out of duty time, i'll take the latter. Just chill out and take your time and make a day out of it.
 
Does Flex have limitations on how far or how long a crewmember can be required to drive a rental car in one day?
 
Exactly, life's too freaking short.
 

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