Senators send letter to TSA owner Hulas

[BoilerUP]

If I'm not mistaken, Clinton ordered AA pilots not to strike.

 

[PCL_128]

Why is it that the party running on the platform of "less government" is the same group of people telling women what they should do with their bodies,

They're not. They're telling them not to murder the human being that's developing in their wombs.

haulting LIFE SAVING genetic research

Research that requires the death of a human embryo.

Say what you want about the liberals, but their policies haven't killed anyone

Need I remind you which party was in power when we went into Vietnam? I think that utter disaster makes the Iraq war pale in comparison.

Bottom line? Both parties are screwed up. The Democrats want abortion on demand, higher taxes, more social programs, and no guns for law-abiding citizens. The Republicans are screwing over everyone except the super-wealthy, they're pandering on the immigration issue, and they've created a complete and utter quagmire out of the Iraq war. I have no faith in either party. You simply choose the guy that's the least reprehensible.

 

[flyer172r]

Both political parties suck. And these letters won't do anything to change Hulie's behavior.

 

[ballsdeep123]

They're not. They're telling them not to murder the human being that's developing in their wombs.



Research that requires the death of a human embryo.



Need I remind you which party was in power when we went into Vietnam? I think that utter disaster makes the Iraq war pale in comparison.

Bottom line? Both parties are screwed up. The Democrats want abortion on demand, higher taxes, more social programs, and no guns for law-abiding citizens. The Republicans are screwing over everyone except the super-wealthy, they're pandering on the immigration issue, and they've created a complete and utter quagmire out of the Iraq war. I have no faith in either party. You simply choose the guy that's the least reprehensible.

Agreed, but if you want to vote for what's best for airline pilots, A LABOR GROUP, you vote democrat. Read "Flying the Line Vol. 2" and you can see the history of how the republicans, in particular George H. W. Bush and
Ronald Regan, have screwed over the pilot industry again and again. So basically if you want to try to make more money and have a better quality of life then you vote for democrats. If you want to vote for making your CEO and upper management rich at your expense then you vote republican. For some people their career is not a big enough voting issue for them and they choose to vote on other issues. Fair enough.

 

[Whydoitry]

Guys you are labor. The Republican party is anti labor period. If you want to support them because of religious reasons, well you may want to reconcider. My guess is that Jesus would be a liberal. If you want to support them because of right to life issues then fine no other issue probably really matters to you.

 

[Damich]

For the record, I am not a Republican anymore either. No offense taken TAWS.

 

[Occam's Razor]

Jesus...a liberal?

Dang right! In fact, He was Labor! A carpenter, Nazareth Local 1221 (UBC)

Everyone remembers His Sermon on the Mount...but only a few old-school conservatives remember His Directives in the Valley:

1. Acquire more things. Then have them blessed. That way they become "Blessed Things".
2. Crush the meek.
3. You will know my favorite disciples by the metal they drive. The holiest spreaders of my Word will rate a G-V!
4. Treat others the way you think they ought to be treated.
5. Hate.
6. That "Turn the other cheek" bit? I was joking! Yea, verily I say unto you...smite those that even act like they might wanna smite thee.
7. Sling-shots are your right! They can have my sling-shot when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!
8. Peacemakers are wussies, and should be stoned, verily.
9. Never trust foreigners! I only love Americans! Just kidding, Moroni! Wait...Moroni! Come back! I was kidding!

 

[DoinTime]

Research that requires the death of a human embryo.

I for one am glad that the most promising technology in medical science is being represed so that artificially inseminated fertility clinic embryos can have a more dignified death of being flushed down the toilet or injected into a barron womb.

Pro lifers really got this one right!

 

[PCL_128]

I for one am glad that the most promising technology in medical science is being represed so that artificially inseminated fertility clinic embryos can have a more dignified death of being flushed down the toilet or injected into a barron womb.

Pro lifers really got this one right!

Hey, don't blame me! I'm consistent on this issue. I want artificial insemination outlawed also. Anything that requires the artificial creation, and later destruction, of a human embryo is bad mojo in my book.

Besides, there is great debate in the medical community about just how "promising" this technology might be anyway. These outlandish claims about cures for alzeimers and Parkinson's disease are pretty much ruled out by a large portion of the medical community.

 

[Flyprdu]

I love the fact that regional airline pilots are also experts in embryonic stem-cell research. Spout your talking points elsewhere.

 

[sqwkvfr]

The politics of fear is finally getting figured out...it's bogus.

Two words:

GLOBAL WARMING.

 

[FmrFreightDog]

9. Never trust foreigners! I only love Americans! Just kidding, Moroni! Wait...Moroni! Come back! I was kidding!

Now that's most likely the funniest thing I have ever read on this board. And who ever said Mr. Smith was just making that stuff up????

 

[sqwkvfr]

haulting LIFE SAVING genetic research

Really? Why don't you show me the law or executive order where Republicans completely outlawed or stopped any kind of stem cell research?

If you really think that Republicans stopped stem cell research, you've failed to educate yourself on this issue and define the term "useful idiot" by playing right into the hands of the party that made this a political issue.

(Subnotes for the impaired: That would be the Democrats ....or is it Democratics?)

 

[flyer172r]

Two words:

GLOBAL WARMING.

hey, global warming is now happening on Mars too, so it must therefore be a real problem that we must do everything to solve.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1720024.ece

 

[Indy319FA]

Carter signed deregulation

Reagan fired the controllers

HW Bush was a big buddy of Lorenzo and did nothing while EAL and PA failed

Clinton pulled the rug out from under the NWA and AA guys

W Bush refused to enact a PEB and forced Comair to settle with its pilots.....then allowed airline managements to rape and pillage after 9/11

Given the above history I don't see how anybody can say either Republicans or Democrats are good for airline employees. Unfortunately the old Boll Weavil Democrats (Pro labor, smaller government, lower taxes, strong on defense) are long gone or have held their nose and gone over to the Republicans, leaving the Democratic party the home of the far left. Republicans are not going to buck big business either, leaving those of us in the middle without a home in either party.

One thing is for sure. This is a consumer driven country. This fact was driven home to me while I worked as a CSA for NWA in Michigan. I remember going to friends of my wife's who were members of the UAW and worked in the auto industry, mainly GM. They all had GM cars in the driveway and would moan about foreign competition, but when you looked around their houses all you could see were cheap foreign products bought at Wal Mart. Bottom line, even the most pro labor hardcore union people are only concerned about getting the most product for the best price, no matter where it comes from. When they came to the airport, they would fly non union Valujet/Air Tran over heavily unionized Northwest, because the fare was better (not trying to bash the Air Tran folks, just making a point).

Politicians of both parties are going to do whats best for consumers, labor be danged. That letter from Kennedy and McCaskill is nice, but nothing more than moral support. It sucks, but it is what it is. Until a new party emerges that is pro labor, for smaller government and taxes, and supports a strong defense, those of us in the middle will be left wandering. I am completely unimpressed with any of the presidential candidates announced so far, and I'm not very optimistic that either party is up to the challenges that face our country.

 

[Occam's Razor]

Indy,

Agree with your comments on our consumer-driven country.

RE: "Clinton pulled the rug out from under the NWA and AA guys"

Urban Myth.

The APA asked Clinton to step-in (they had a percieved "unity" issue)...and I was in the room when Clinton's counsel settled our strike (he basically told management what they'd be taking).

It would be nice to have a party like you describe...pro-Labor with fiscal restraint. We're bit too polarized for that now, and unfortunately, many of us seem to take pride in our dogmatic ideologies.

 

[Indy319FA]

Occam,

I was working at NWA during the strike, and was laid of by those pricks after you guys were out for 8 days. The guys I talked to after the settlement had nothing good to say about Clinton, Lindsey, or Rodney Slater....

Too bad you guys had to cave on scope, it hurt us all.

 

[Occam's Razor]

Occam,

I was working at NWA during the strike, and was laid of by those pricks after you guys were out for 8 days. The guys I talked to after the settlement had nothing good to say about Clinton, Lindsey, or Rodney Slater....

You shoulda talked to guys who were actually there.

Too bad you guys had to cave on scope, it hurt us all.

We're full-circle here. Who will do the most to help us regain a voice in the process? Bush? McCain? Rudy? Obama?

 

[BoilerUP]

Something tells me the plight of labor in general and airline pilots specifically is near the absolute bottom of any Presidential candidate's concerns...just a hair below Iraq, the War on Terror, Social Security, foreign policy, economy, health care, climate change, education, energy independence, gun control, and what color balloons to have at the party conventions.

 

[Shrek]

This post was not supposed to be political...........but have at it - you will NOT change someone's mind that is already made up.

The point that Senators took the time to send the letter was my point and what effect if ANY that it will have on current negotiations........

Back to the pointless political rant..........