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How long from app to interview and then to class?

How likely are you to JFK?

How long on res and what are the rules?

And yes I did do a search but didnt have much time to research.
 
1. Depends on your qualification. Interview to class about a months to two

2. JFK is automatically your first domicile, you can bid otherwise at your discretion

3. Sept 06 A320 hires holding a line. its about 2 months on the E190

Other.....

Min 12 days off on Reserve
70 Hr. Gar. Line / 75 Reserve
$47.00 / Hr 1st year on both planes
150% pay for any flying over 70 hrs.
upgrade 2 1/2 yrs on E190, 5-6 yrs on A320
 
Some 320 guys are now getting FLL and BOS before they are out of training. I'm not sure that will continue in both bases, but I think it will in BOS with the growth that is happening out of that base. Rumors starting to fly again about an MCO base in September and a OAK base in 08. Those rumors flare up about every six months, so I'll believe it when I can bid it.
 
1. Depends on your qualification. Interview to class about a months to two

2. JFK is automatically your first domicile, you can bid otherwise at your discretion

3. Sept 06 A320 hires holding a line. its about 2 months on the E190

Other.....

Min 12 days off on Reserve
70 Hr. Gar. Line / 75 Reserve
$47.00 / Hr 1st year on both planes
150% pay for any flying over 70 hrs.
upgrade 2 1/2 yrs on E190, 5-6 yrs on A320

You have really got to stop spreading this rumor about 5-6 year A320 CA upgrades. I have it from very reputable sources that most will upgrade at 2-3 years.

;)
 
As of today, there are people upgrading to Captain on the A320 who have been with the company under 3 years. Remember, this is the airline business........anything and everything is subject to change, no matter what name or paint scheme is on the plane.
 
You have really got to stop spreading this rumor about 5-6 year A320 CA upgrades. I have it from very reputable sources that most will upgrade at 2-3 years.

;)


Riiiight....believe it to...If you were hired just over a year ago, As I was, you will not hold 320 cap for at least 3-4 more years......do the math and you can figure that out on your own
 
i know a guy that went to the open house liek a month ago and was in class in less than 3 weeks.
 
Riiiight....believe it to...If you were hired just over a year ago, As I was, you will not hold 320 cap for at least 3-4 more years......do the math and you can figure that out on your own

Are ya NEW? I have more sarcasm on file here than they have in the Library of Congress (and hubris too). Going on 19 months (ooh, ahh) for me. I really expect muuuuuuuuuch more.
 
I am going past 13 months and I expect it to be 2011 or 2012 before I can get 320 CA based on the current deliveries. Then reserve will be for another few years. If the 319 for 190 rumor happens then there might be some stagnation as the turnover happens and it could get worse.
 
I am going past 13 months and I expect it to be 2011 or 2012 before I can get 320 CA based on the current deliveries. Then reserve will be for another few years. If the 319 for 190 rumor happens then there might be some stagnation as the turnover happens and it could get worse.

misery loves company, I think you and the German Chef should fly together!
:rolleyes:
 
misery loves company, I think you and the German Chef should fly together!
:rolleyes:

Now you got the hang of it! Those hair plugs are giving you lots of confidence.

It's not misery, it's reality. Upgrades ain't what they used to be. Nuff said. I am having a blast here lately at jetblue. An underpaid blast, but a blast nonetheless.
 
Is the whole 319/170 swap real discussion or is that just wishful thinking?

Again--I R pilot, not airline exec...but even with some sweet 170 deals the abilty to have 1 type rating, a homogenous work force, and simpler mx has got to be a lot easier and more efficient...
 
Is the whole 319/170 swap real discussion or is that just wishful thinking?

Again--I R pilot, not airline exec...but even with some sweet 170 deals the abilty to have 1 type rating, a homogenous work force, and simpler mx has got to be a lot easier and more efficient...

Strickly rumor. Just like Delta interested in buying us. Lots of talk, but no solid evidence.

Actually they are 190s.
 
Dogwood, they are actually 180s, hahaha.

On a serious note I hope their trip to the BNA plant fixes all of those issues, but from a good friend of mine last week (190 CA) ... not so much. Who knows. I heard that the future of Embraer is riding on this plane, meaning they will do WHATEVER it takes to keep 'em at jb. Like pay our FOs for example.

This rumor is pretty pathetic IMHO. The Delta one is as well, so why do I keep flying with captains telling me that it has legs?
 
Strickly rumor. Just like Delta interested in buying us. Lots of talk, but no solid evidence.

Actually they are 190s.

My bad on the jets....I knew that. No direspect intended.

My laughing out loud at the idea of ANY carrier buying another carrier got snuffed when US Air merged/bought/was purchased by America West, and their subsequent bid for Delta. I actually spun up some seminars in CLT and hired a UPT buddy to run them just so we could help the "huge" number of US Air folks who were going to be interviewing when US Air went under. Yeah--I'm a genius...can I help you pick your next stock? In 2002-2003 a lot of US Air guys WERE bailing for anything--thinking the ride was about over.

I don't think Delta will ever buy JB. I also will never bet any serious money on ANYTHING in this business.
 
Dogwood, they are actually 180s, hahaha.

On a serious note I hope their trip to the BNA plant fixes all of those issues, but from a good friend of mine last week (190 CA) ... not so much. Who knows. I heard that the future of Embraer is riding on this plane, meaning they will do WHATEVER it takes to keep 'em at jb. Like pay our FOs for example.

This rumor is pretty pathetic IMHO. The Delta one is as well, so why do I keep flying with captains telling me that it has legs?

My forecast, for what it's worth, is that the major issues will be resolved with the airplane, and we will have it on the property for a long time. After all, it's just an airplane. A pair of wings, and a pair of motors. How complicated can that be?

Having two fleet types is that that much of a problem. A common type rating throughout your fleet, may save you a little, but not that much.

I would have liked to have seen an all bus fleet, but we are where we are.
 
Now you got the hang of it! Those hair plugs are giving you lots of confidence.

It's not misery, it's reality. Upgrades ain't what they used to be. Nuff said. I am having a blast here lately at jetblue. An underpaid blast, but a blast nonetheless.

Damn I thought I had the judge Napolitano look down and now you have done gone blown my cover...dang! BTW you can be having a blast and still be one negative SOB...:eek:
 
dang I thought I had the judge Napolitano look down and now you have done gone blown my cover...dang! BTW you can be having a blast and still be one negative SOB...:eek:

and all along I thought it was just me who felt he had a freakishly low hairline!
 
My forecast, for what it's worth, is that the major issues will be resolved with the airplane, and we will have it on the property for a long time. After all, it's just an airplane. A pair of wings, and a pair of motors. How complicated can that be?

Having two fleet types is that that much of a problem. A common type rating throughout your fleet, may save you a little, but not that much.

I would have liked to have seen an all bus fleet, but we are where we are.

Spoke with a VP two weeks ago in an informal setting. He stated that they want the Embraer to work because the money to be made from its markets are astronomical and Embraer wants these issues gone. He said it is no secret that they are just as serious about dropping them if Embraer doesn't get it right. He said there is no timeline but that customers deserve the service they've come to expect and that does have a timeline.
 
"Never fly the 'A' Model of anything." Anybody ever hear that one? That's what we have going on now. There's not too many brand new models that don't have problems when they're first released. While definitely a nuisance, I think the problems will be work out and the 190 fleet will perform just fine. I don't believe we'll ever swap them for 319's but I'm sure Airbus would like those orders considering how many workers they're looking to lay off.
 
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I heard the opposite. I've heard that the 190 biz plan Al Spain sold everyone called for under $40 barrel , $20 as fo and $70 as captains ( remember when they were looking at that jet JB had tons of qualified applicants and no attrition).

I have also heard that our vp of ops has said that if they knew then what they know now, they would have never bought that 190.


Spoke with a VP two weeks ago in an informal setting. He stated that they want the Embraer to work because the money to be made from its markets are astronomical and Embraer wants these issues gone. He said it is no secret that they are just as serious about dropping them if Embraer doesn't get it right. He said there is no timeline but that customers deserve the service they've come to expect and that does have a timeline.
 
I have also heard that our vp of ops has said that if they knew then what they know now, they would have never bought that 190.

That's what you say in divorce mediation too, right!
 
There's that Caring value again. And objective too!
 
I don't think too long. The major issue is how long to hold a line which right now is quite a while.
 

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