competitive at delta?

[737 Pylt]

Vingus: I think the definition is a matter of perception....
(1) Good past record - person who makes good judgement calls in both their aviation and their personal lives
(2) Ability to do well on the aptitude tests
(3) Leadership (type A personality)
(4) Ability to make friends that are willing to put their reputation on the line to get you in the door
(5) Meet the flight requirements and perferably has something extra to offer
.... and maybe
(6) Community involvement

I think that is what they mean. There is probably no equal in the industry where pilots percieve that they are the best and most qualified than at Delta. If you want to be a Delta pilot I think you have to impress them that you are worthy of membership in their group.

I know from the outside it may look like arrogance. From the inside it looks like pride. In any event, if you want to fly at Delta that is what they require. They don't want to be SouthWest, they want to be Delta.

My my, how your attitude has changed toward the evil DL pilot empire now that we are hiring!

737

 

[~~~^~~~]

Actually - My thoughts on ALPA Representation, OneList and Representation are no different. They have not changed. Many of the people responsible for the great harm which was done to our profession have moved on. As for ALPA, I still think that our union must represent its members (all of them) before our profession can be restored.

My first airline is being destroyed. It is a waste of a great opportunity. But, when knocked in the dirt you have a choice. You can sit there and cry about the defeat, or you can brush the dirt off and get back in the game.

 

[737 Pylt]

Actually - My thoughts on ALPA Representation, OneList and Representation are no different. They have not changed. Many of the people responsible for the great harm which was done to our profession have moved on. As for ALPA, I still think that our union must represent its members (all of them) before our profession can be restored.

My first airline is being destroyed. It is a waste of a great opportunity. But, when knocked in the dirt you have a choice. You can sit there and cry about the defeat, or you can brush the dirt off and get back in the game.

I said nothing about ALPA, my comment was your "change in tone" regarding us evil DL pilots. Your attitude change is.....Well, alarming. 2 years ago with no DL pilot hiring in sight, you loaded your guns and pointed it lock stock and barrel at us. I see now that we're hiring, your "toned down" change in postings is noticeable!

737

 

[400ADude]

Vingus: I think the definition is a matter of perception....
(1) Good past record - person who makes good judgement calls in both their aviation and their personal lives
(2) Ability to do well on the aptitude tests
(3) Leadership (type A personality)
(4) Ability to make friends that are willing to put their reputation on the line to get you in the door
(5) Meet the flight requirements and perferably has something extra to offer
.... and maybe
(6) Community involvement

I think that is what they mean. There is probably no equal in the industry where pilots percieve that they are the best and most qualified than at Delta. If you want to be a Delta pilot I think you have to impress them that you are worthy of membership in their group.

I know from the outside it may look like arrogance. From the inside it looks like pride. In any event, if you want to fly at Delta that is what they require. They don't want to be SouthWest, they want to be Delta.

Mod edit: Insulting post removed.

 

[acarpe3448]

No offense but this has to be the funniest post I have seen here in awhile.

Community involvement?:laugh: Where at?....737pylts house while he is on a trip.

Something extra to offer? He Capt, you wanna fool around?:laugh:

Apttidude tests? These are just Chaff after the interview to tell you why you failed. Either

Good juddgement in your personal life?:laugh: Where are you applying to?

Sorry Dumb A$$! The interviews are after the testing! You don't pass the test, you do not interview! Delta is very, very big into community involvment! Something extra to offer you say is a joke? How about Check Airman experience, simulator instructor, CRM instructor! Past management experience, good problem solving skills! I don't think there is a thing you can laugh about in his post! It is very accurate!

 

[PCL_128]

What sort of community involvement are they looking for?

 

[jetpig32]

What sort of community involvement are they looking for?

Well, if you traffic rocks to the community, thats probably not what they want, but hell, its the ATL

 

[~~~^~~~]

2 years ago with no DL pilot hiring in sight, you loaded your guns and pointed it lock stock and barrel at us. I see now that we're hiring, your "toned down" change in postings is noticeable!

737

Apologies to everyone who isn't 737Pylt for the thread creep.

(1) Chuck Giambusso and Duane Woerth were two of the major players in ALPA's decision to lock out the Connection pilots out of bargaining with their employer over matters of their wages and working conditions. They are both no longer serving in their positions of power.
(2) ALPA has adjusted its position on binding parent companies and Comair's most recent contract has Delta Air Lines, Inc. as a signatory. This is hopefully the reversal in ALPA's representational position which indicates they will allow all ALPA members to have some sort of effective scope.
(3) The "Request for Proposal" concept where 49% of Delta Inc. flying will be sent out to the lowest bidder is in full stride and Delta's seniority list is down around 2/3rds of where it was as a result. For the lower 1/3 of the Delta list where their flying is being performed by Comair, Mesa, Chautauqua, JetExpress, Shuttle America, Freedom, SkyWest, ASA (and whoever else I'm forgetting) that battle has been lost.
(4) Delta has made long term commitments to operate aircraft which are not the best fleet choices on a CSM/RPASM basis. These choices make Delta less competitive that it would otherwise be. These fleet choices were (and are) being forced by somewhat arbitrary scope restrictions with encourage operation of aircraft at less than their capabilities and smaller aircraft that what other wise would be called for.

My positions have not changed. ALPA made some horrendous mistakes - many of which were driven by the Delta MEC for political reasons. These errors in ALPA representation had predictable results. I have argued for hours hoping to help people understand why ALPA apartied policies would harm our union and the Delta pilots. Obviously my attempt to follow in the footsteps of Ben Franklin to get political change within our union failed.

737Pylt - you won. There are no junior Delta pilots performing the flying that the 737-200's, Delta Express, the DC-9's performed. Everything in the Delta fleet is being optimized for long range flying and the domestic side is (in large part) being done by Connection guys who have to be cheaper than everyone else or risk being replaced after 5 years of longevity.

There are union hold outs at ASA and Comair but in sheer numbers the rebels have us overwhelmed. It will always be my position that Delta should have stapled the ASA and Comair guys on the bottom and kept the DCI flying in house, (allowing Delta to operate the right sized jets in house) but that battle is so far lost....If there is any change in my position it is that I'm done being Don Quixote, learned my lesson and moved on.

 

[737 Pylt]

Fins:
Nicely put!

737

 

[PowerRanger]

Okay, so I read the Delta gouge on aviationinterviews.com. And holy ******************** that sounds like a hard grueling interview from hell.

The cognitive testing sounds the worse....

No wonder why people aren't doing so well with that interview.

 

[Way2Broke]

No offense but this has to be the funniest post I have seen here in awhile.

Community involvement?:laugh: Where at?....737pylts house while he is on a trip.

Something extra to offer? He Capt, you wanna fool around?:laugh:

Apttidude tests? These are just Chaff after the interview to tell you why you failed. Either

Good juddgement in your personal life?:laugh: Where are you applying to?

MOD INPUT:
Enjoy the permanent vacation. You contribute nothing, but flame and that is not what Flight Info is about. Its about pilots helping pilots, not the other way around.