Why MESA?

[Flyer1015]

For those of you who are curious, here's how to get your hands on the Mesa pilot contract (CBA):

Take the most convoluted dictionary you can find. Throw it on the floor. Have your dog take a sh*t on it. Then, set it on fire, and immediately spill milk on top of it.

That right there is your very own copy of the Mesa pilot contract (CBA).

 

[RP170]

my life has gotten better since mesa! it's what you make of it, and how much you let the system beat you down! sure, i maybe shuda waited till sky west called, but they didnt!

Bing

And with a post like that I can see why Skywest never called. The guys at Mesa that are currently accepting jobs there are 1) uneducated about the industry or 2) at Mesa because as Bing stated no one else thought they were worthy of offering a job to.

 

[cale42]

Unnecessary cheap shot there RP170. There are a lot of people that chose Mesa for specific reasons.. the bases, the fast upgrades on the prop, the chance to not sit reserve.

I'll be the first to admit the work rules there are terrible.. I got JA'ed 4 of 5 days this week.. I may very well leave, and soon. However I never sat a day of reserve, I logged 400 hour turbine in 5 months, and I could upgrade to captain on the 1900 right now if I so chose, or I can go to my choice of other regionals.

People have their reasons.. it is not fair to characterize all the new hires as uneducated or unworthy of other regionals.

cale

 

[Palerider957]

Unnecessary cheap shot there RP170. There are a lot of people that chose Mesa for specific reasons.. the bases, the fast upgrades on the prop, the chance to not sit reserve.

I'll be the first to admit the work rules there are terrible.. I got JA'ed 4 of 5 days this week.. I may very well leave, and soon. However I never sat a day of reserve, I logged 400 hour turbine in 5 months, and I could upgrade to captain on the 1900 right now if I so chose, or I can go to my choice of other regionals.

People have their reasons.. it is not fair to characterize all the new hires as uneducated or unworthy of other regionals.

cale

Pathetic sucker........

 

[Palerider957]

Unnecessary cheap shot there RP170. There are a lot of people that chose Mesa for specific reasons.. the bases, the fast upgrades on the prop, the chance to not sit reserve.

I'll be the first to admit the work rules there are terrible.. I got JA'ed 4 of 5 days this week.. I may very well leave, and soon. However I never sat a day of reserve, I logged 400 hour turbine in 5 months, and I could upgrade to captain on the 1900 right now if I so chose, or I can go to my choice of other regionals.

People have their reasons.. it is not fair to characterize all the new hires as uneducated or unworthy of other regionals.

cale

You are obviously: Not married.
Do not have a family
Do not have a mortgage
MESA is your first job out of college

You probably: Live in your parents basement
Have never had a leadership position

As long as there is an unlimited supply of pilot like you, the regionals will always be a sweat shop.

 

[bingsatre]

mr goo-roo

And with a post like that I can see why Skywest never called. The guys at Mesa that are currently accepting jobs there are 1) uneducated about the industry or 2) at Mesa because as Bing stated no one else thought they were worthy of offering a job to.

Well aren’t you a friendly fellow!

I didn’t say Mesa rocked! Mr. E170, It takes a big person to criticize my education after a short post about my experience at Mesa. ….I just left out all the bad parts.

O and they did call, but at that point it wouldn’t have worked for me.

We all know Mesa needs to change! Thanks for pointing that you airline industry goo-roo.

Bing

 

[cale42]

Try again Pale Rider...

I'm 27.. engaged.. and aviation is a second career for me. Before this I was an IT consultant and when I left that job I was a team leader with several people who reported directly too me. It's been 10 years since I've lived with my parents.. and with an understanding fiancee I make ends meet even as I slug through the regional FO ranks.

I also happen to understand how the world really works. Going to Mesa is a stepping stone for me, I logged my 1000 TT flight instructing and paid my dues. Given that I will be living in Denver I opted to focus on a few specific regionals, in my case Mesa, Skywest, and Horizon. As a green instructor I didn't get an interview with Horizon and for whatever reason after my SKW interview I was not offered a position. I opted to take a job with Mesa rather than begin the whole interviewing process again, and as a result I have gained some hugely valuable experience. I have also learned a lot about being a 121 pilot and very well may leave soon. However the fact that after 6 months in the 121 world I have an opportunity to upgrade and get some very valuable PIC time makes it a difficult decision.

If you would like to explain to me how going to another regional that is more unstable and I would have had a longer commute benefits me personally I will be interested to hear. Or should I have continued to flight instruct for another 6 months and hope SKW or RAH would like me better with 1500 dual given instead of 700? Since you apparently know everything about me I'm curious to hear what I should have done with my life.

Don't presume to know things you don't, and don't presume to understand why people make the decisions they do..

cale

 

[Palerider957]

Try again Pale Rider...

I'm 27.. engaged.. and aviation is a second career for me. Before this I was an IT consultant and when I left that job I was a team leader with several people who reported directly too me. It's been 10 years since I've lived with my parents.. and with an understanding fiancee I make ends meet even as I slug through the regional FO ranks.

I also happen to understand how the world really works. Going to Mesa is a stepping stone for me, I logged my 1000 TT flight instructing and paid my dues. Given that I will be living in Denver I opted to focus on a few specific regionals, in my case Mesa, Skywest, and Horizon. As a green instructor I didn't get an interview with Horizon and for whatever reason after my SKW interview I was not offered a position. I opted to take a job with Mesa rather than begin the whole interviewing process again, and as a result I have gained some hugely valuable experience. I have also learned a lot about being a 121 pilot and very well may leave soon. However the fact that after 6 months in the 121 world I have an opportunity to upgrade and get some very valuable PIC time makes it a difficult decision.

If you would like to explain to me how going to another regional that is more unstable and I would have had a longer commute benefits me personally I will be interested to hear. Or should I have continued to flight instruct for another 6 months and hope SKW or RAH would like me better with 1500 dual given instead of 700? Since you apparently know everything about me I'm curious to hear what I should have done with my life.

Don't presume to know things you don't, and don't presume to understand why people make the decisions they do..

cale

Listen brother, Mesa is a toxin that is working it's way through the U.S. pilot corp. Mesa is like a leech that will eventually kill the host.

JO does not like you.
JO does not respect you.
JO does not respect FAR's.
JO does not respect your contract.
JO knows that he can manipulate, punish, abuse, humilitate, sodomize, this pilot group whenever he feels like it; and the Mesa pilot group will take all of it.

Having said all of that, can you blame JO for abusing you??

P.S. Being engaged is a looooooonnnnng way from being married. Take it from an old married man.

 

[Flyer1015]

You forgot one:





<----------- JO is a clown!

 

[cale42]

Pale Rider.. I agree with you on all those points.. I'm just saying people have their reasons.. there are a lot of good pilots at Mesa.. I didn't appreciate the post that insinuated we were either uneducated or unworthy or other regionals, or that I was some brand new know nothing FO, when I work hard to not be that.

after my last post I noticed your signature line.. anyone that knows what thats from should understand the concept of doing what it takes

cale