737 Type

[NEDude]

Mines bigger than yours....

Everyone just shut up. PLEASE!

If you want a type rating, as mentioned FTI, HPA, K&S and CPT all have good reputations. I don't think you will go wrong with any of them. And it doesn't matter which model of 737 you get your type in, they all say B737 on your certificate.

If you don't want to buy the type, then get off this thread and mind your own business.

Who really gives a flying @$&% which carrier you were lucky to be hired by. SWA, Continental, Delta, FedEx, UPS, AirTran etc. all provide opportunities to make good money doing what most of here enjoy doing. Despite what some of you think, just because you got hired at one as opposed to the other doesn't make you better than anyone else. And just because your W-2 may show more than the next guy doesn't mean jack either.

Anyone who thinks that highly of themselves and tries to prove it by bragging on an internet message board is truly a geek.

 

[The Victors]

get the cheapest type available. It really doesn't matter as long as the rest of your resume is solid. Also, if you're intrested in swa, you don't need the type to get an interview.

 

[skyfliers]

Don't go for the cheapest, go for the best training you can get! If you want to go for quality training K&S is definitely the best place to be! They really make sure you know how to fly the 737 and you'll feel prepared when you join SWA!

 

[jetpig32]

Lets talk $. For those who went to K&S, HP, Bobs 737 Types/Truck Driving/and Taxadermist School, what what was the costs? Was it with a hotel room?

 

[Tejas-Jet]

Nice big jet .... I think I'll buy myself a job!!!

People like to say that...but it really isn't true. ESpecially at "my house". Just cuz you have the type, doesn't mean you are going to get the job.

 

[328dude]

Nice big jet .... I think I'll buy myself a job!!!

When will it end!

I'll buy what ever affords me at least a livable wage and health insurance my first year.

 

[Tejas-Jet]

Don't go for the cheapest, go for the best training you can get! If you want to go for quality training K&S is definitely the best place to be! They really make sure you know how to fly the 737 and you'll feel prepared when you join SWA!

Not really....They just want to be sure you have the type....that's all. Just get the type...doesn't matter how, with who, where...or if you paid for it or not....

 

[Bob_Sacamano]

Yeah, because that's EXACTLY what Southwest did during Persian Gulf War I, the horrible recession in 94, and September 11th.

LOL! :laugh: Exactly which industry are you referring to? A large domestic-only regional-type industry flying the smallest aircraft Boeing makes?

WN is basically a large domestic-only regional flying predominantly short-haul, high-frequency. The catch that blurs the line is they fly a bit larger aircraft and are paid substantially more than traditional regional carriers, that pay difference being accentuated post-9/11. Pre-9/11, the pay differential between the legacies and WN was very pronounced in favor of the legacies.

I think it's difficult, if not impossible, to compare WN to any legacy with a worldwide route structure. I know a lot of SWA pilots will try to convince us of the merits of a 9+30 layover at the Cedar Rapids Holiday Inn (after flying 6+ legs) versus the 24- 36hr layovers in Sydney or Paris (after flying 1 leg) more typical of a major. :laugh:

Since WN pilots' productivity is just about maxed to FAR limits, I and others believe that if there is another industry downturn due to terrorism, another war (Iran, N. Korea, Syria), etc... you will see WN management turn to their pilots for wage concessions to "more closely align their pay with their peers" flying the smallest similar passenger aircraft.

Perhaps I'm wrong?

BBB

 

[Bob_Sacamano]

I'm really not trying to be a jerk (perhaps it just comes naturally) but do you think that MAY be why you're still at Coex? I paid for my ATP, and several other ratings (Seaplane, glider...). My feeling is that everything above and beyond helps you get hired. Getting the 737 type is a no-brainer if you ask me. Maybe trying to show as much career progression as I could helped me get on at JetBlue and Southwest. Or maybe I should have saved that tiny investment, and toiled in obscurity, hoping to get a free ATP, or upgrade from my regional carrier.

The last airplane instruction that I paid for was a MEI. THats it.

 

[Bob_Sacamano]

Well, *I'm* impressed...

Thats what I did and I got paid to get the rating!!! You guys with your $8000 ratings enjoy my wake turb!!

 

[Bob_Sacamano]

You may know it as Burma.

I don't think I'll be enjoying your wake over Myanmar & all the places 74's fly. Send me a postcard though.:smash:

 

[Tejas-Jet]

It sure beats 6 legs a day - some of us actually DO NOT want to work for SWA, despite what most of you think...

I guess if oyu say it long enough it might come true? Contrary to what some believe, the vast mojority of us at SWA DO NOT fly 6 legs per day...however, there are some who want to believe that.

 

[XLR8]

I'm really not trying to be a jerk (perhaps it just comes naturally) but do you think that MAY be why you're still at Coex? I paid for my ATP, and several other ratings (Seaplane, glider...). My feeling is that everything above and beyond helps you get hired. Getting the 737 type is a no-brainer if you ask me. Maybe trying to show as much career progression as I could helped me get on at JetBlue and Southwest. Or maybe I should have saved that tiny investment, and toiled in obscurity, hoping to get a free ATP, or upgrade from my regional carrier.

I agree with Bob...I bought my private pilot, I bought my instrument rating, I bought my commercial rating, I even paid for a multi-engine rating...how silly of me. Had I known people were giving away free ratings I would have kept flying skydivers in a single engine Cessna until someone paid for me to get a multi-engine rating.

If your company makes YOU pay for a type rating for an airplane they fly...that's BS. But when I bought my type rating, I didn't work for a company that even flew 737's...I was just buying another rating...hoping to move on...the exact same reason I bought a multi-engine rating.

Maybe I should have saved some money and bought a multi-engine rating in a 737???? By the way, has anyone met a pilot that works for SWA and was upset about it? I paid for a 737 type rating (and unfortunately didn't get hired by SWA....yet) but I still enjoyed the experience. I wouldn't change a thing. Plus it made training with the company I work for now (flying a 737) a piece of cake!

 

[Tejas-Jet]

I know a lot of SWA pilots will try to convince us of the merits of a 9+30 layover at the Cedar Rapids Holiday Inn (after flying 6+ legs) versus the 24- 36hr layovers in Sydney or Paris (after flying 1 leg) more typical of a major. :laugh:

Since WN pilots' productivity is just about maxed to FAR limits,

Perhaps I'm wrong?

Perhaps you are wrong....9+30 layover? It seems you are getting some bad poop from your source, whoever that might be. Our trips are broken up into AM's and PM's....that is why I question your 9+30 layover comment. The only time that could possibly happen is with a weather situation or worse.

Productivity maxed to FAR limits? What are you talking about? Maybe you have an explaination... or your source is laughing at you.

 

[Tejas-Jet]

Let's see... at the end of a typical SWA pilot's day he's at another Holiday Inn in Lubbock, Midland, Birmingham, Oakland, Midway, Ontario, etc... :bawling:

To each his own I guess.

Looks like you are mostly wrong again. Yes there is one Holiday Inn in your selected list of cities...also some nice Doubletree's, Sheratons and some Suites too....

Not too many layovers in Midway or Oakland....see we try to run an efficient operation here...so we don't layover our crews in cities where we have crews actually based....I always thought it was stupid to have crews scheduled to layover in cities where they actually had crews based. Seems I remember my former employer ( a legacy carrier) was inefficient like that...in more ways that I can count.

Also, my former employer flew to the International cities that you mentioned....In my opinion...not worth the hassle of still being there. If I really need to get to London, Paris, Vienna, Rome, Singapore, etc., I know how to get there...today...right now, if I want.

Can you actually believe that my former legacy carrier employer still has airplanes sit at the gate for 55 minutes to over an hour on a hub turn? Crazy !!! How much money can an airline lose with an airplane sitting at the gate being non productive? BILLIONS..as we have seen.

Your comment, "To each his own"....yes, and thankfully so. Clearly we will have to agree to disagree on this...but please, get another source...the one you have now is really feeding you some bad info.

Just a suggestion....go up to a SWA pilot at an airport and just ask for the straight info...at least when you post on these boards, you'll appear to know what you are talking about.

 

[ex j-41]

FTI out of Denver. I did my type in 93'. Hired by SWA in 94'. I have a few buddies that went there, and we all had a great experience. Good luck.

Just curious, what were your flight times when you got hired?