United and Strobe Lights

[RedDogC130]

quit looking at the light.

 

[ackattacker]

alaska has the same procedure in the FOM, all lights on when cleared into position and hold or cleared for t/o. I think strobes and landing lights should be off until cleared for t/o. Looking at all those lights when crossing the runway downfield can make anyone a little uneasy.

Alaska turns landing lights on when cleared into position and hold? This is contrary to the FAA guidance in AC 120-74A which says that landing lights should be turned on only when takeoff clearance is received.

The same AC also says that strobe lights should not be illuminated taking the runway if they will adversely affect the vision of other pilots.

 

[PositionandHold]

They do it specifically to piss you off. No other logical reason, like for instance, making themselves extra visible to approaching aircraft.

 

[Chest Rockwell]

AC 120-74a

 

[ReverseSensing]

Alaska turns landing lights on when cleared into position and hold? This is contrary to the FAA guidance in AC 120-74A which says that landing lights should be turned on only when takeoff clearance is received.

They know it and don't care.

"We're cleared across 16L and someone's either taking off, or it's Alaska. Do you feel lucky?"

 

[doh]

Most FOM's have something in them about pilot's discretion when other aircraft are behind you and holding short. But remember, this is Untied (spelling intended) we're talking about. There is a famous quote: "United hired gentlemen with the expectation of training them to become pilots, Northwest hired pilots hoping to train them to become gentlemen. To date, despite their best efforts, neither carrier can be considered successful." So just be glad you can see them and get out of the way!:beer:

 

[aa73]

It really depends on the airline. At my old airline, ACA, it was just like UAL - strobes on when taking position. At AA, we never turn strobes on until cleared for takeoff. Actually on the Md80 you cannot even turn strobes on, they come on automatically when the nosewheel lifts off. So it just depends on what airline you fly for. Some airlines have a religious lights on policy (UAL, Jetblue, DAL, CAL, Alaska, SWA) and some others are more at the pilot's discretion (AA, NWA, AWA, USair).

 

[Dewey Oxberger]

At XJT it is taxi and inspection light on for pos/hold, and stobes and landing lights on when TO clearance is recieved. If the takeoff rwy is also in use for landing I usually throw the strobes on as well.

 

[Ben Franklin]

I don't turn the headlights on on my car until I am actually on the highway.


just my lame contribution to the worst thread ever.


Sincerely,

B. Franklin

 

[Scrapdog]

Give me a break fellas - is this actually a thread? Who cares! What silly sh*t. Do you taxi at 13 or 14 knots? In a fighter you taxi at 25 knots, at SWA you taxi at 50...I say potatoe, you say pototoe.