Delta Shoves ASA Aside

[Smacktard]

Atlanta Constitution article today talking about the announcement yesterday. Of note, the article states that Delta expects 7 connection carriers to be flying out of Atlanta this year, up from 4.

 

[Texx]

Atlanta Constitution article today talking about the announcement yesterday. Of note, the article states that Delta expects 7 connection carriers to be flying out of Atlanta this year, up from 4.

As usual, the AJC is wrong. It's up from 5.

The only ones left are Big Sky and ExpressJet. I don't think your going to see BE1900s on the ramp in ATL.

 

[Smacktard]

As usual, the AJC is wrong. It's up from 5.

The only ones left are Big Sky and ExpressJet. I don't think your going to see BE1900s on the ramp in ATL.

Unfortunately, that wasn't the AJC 'reporting', it was the words of a Delta exec.

 

[Texx]

Unfortunately, that wasn't the AJC 'reporting', it was the words of a Delta exec.

And their words are as good as gold!

Yeah, right.

 

[frapper]

If our pilot group keeps up this pissing and moaning and doesn't take action out on the line, we won't have any "defined routes" even if we are released someday! We have enormous leverage right now, but it looks like that will soon change!!!

I keep hearing about open time pick ups, vacation dropping, broken airplanes leaving out stations, etc, etc, etc.

I just hope I'm outta here before this ship sinks! ...p_ssies!!!!!!!

 

[John Pennekamp]

I predict that ASA will operate less than 50% of the flights in ATL at this time next year. This move to "nationalize" ATL operations is just the first move in breaking our monopoly on ATL.

We will see XJT, Comair, Freedom, Shuttle America, Skywest, ASA, and Pinnacle in ATL.

 

[Jack-O-Lantern]

If our pilot group keeps up this pissing and moaning and doesn't take action out on the line, we won't have any "defined routes" even if we are released someday! We have enormous leverage right now, but it looks like that will soon change!!!

I keep hearing about open time pick ups, vacation dropping, broken airplanes leaving out stations, etc, etc, etc.

I just hope I'm outta here before this ship sinks! ...p_ssies!!!!!!!

Dont let the door hit you in the A$$ PAL

 

[John Pennekamp]

Dont let the door hit you in the A$$ PAL

That was weak.

 

[Jack-O-Lantern]

That was weak.

No, I'll tell you what is weak. All these whiney a$$ crybabies around here that want all these changes around here and just want, want, want,when there just looking to bolt from here as soon as they can!
If your looking to move on asap, than just do your time and quit whining about every dam thing!

 

[John Pennekamp]

No, I'll tell you what is weak. All these whiney a$$ crybabies around here that want all these changes around here and just want, want, want,when there just looking to bolt from here as soon as they can!
If your looking to move on asap, than just do your time and quit whining about every dam thing!

That was weak too.

Who's worse... the whiney crybabies or the one whining and crying about them?

 

[CrownandCoke]

We will see XJT, Comair, Freedom, Shuttle America, Skywest, ASA, and Pinnacle in ATL.

I highly doubt Pinnacle will be there. There's a lot of talk about us getting Delta flying, but we cannot staff the airplanes we have now. I cannot imagine Delta wanting to climb on board our sinking ship.

Besides, I have friends that work for ASA. I do not want to be that guy that takes their flying away

 

[SYX328]

Forgot about CHQ in ATL. Also the great idea to move DL agents to ASA for gate and ramp.

 

[Morning Wood]

If our pilot group keeps up this pissing and moaning and doesn't take action out on the line, we won't have any "defined routes" even if we are released someday! We have enormous leverage right now, but it looks like that will soon change!!!

I keep hearing about open time pick ups, vacation dropping, broken airplanes leaving out stations, etc, etc, etc.

I just hope I'm outta here before this ship sinks! ...p_ssies!!!!!!!

They aren't your routes anyway. Your airplanes say "Delta Connection"

 

[John Pennekamp]

I highly doubt Pinnacle will be there. There's a lot of talk about us getting Delta flying, but we cannot staff the airplanes we have now. I cannot imagine Delta wanting to climb on board our sinking ship.

Besides, I have friends that work for ASA. I do not want to be that guy that takes their flying away

You may be right but Delta just ordered a bunch of -900s. Your staffing may be low now, but there's always pilots to be found. They'd only need about 150 pilots to staff 30 airplanes. That's just 3 months of hiring. If ASA can still fill classes, surely Pinnacle can.

I don't see your ship sinking. Pinnacle is one of the last untapped resources in the commuter world because you don't already fly for multiple partners. Pinnacle wants to and needs to diversify, because NWA is the sinking ship.

As for not wanting to "be that guy" unfortunately, pilots aren't given the choice of where airplanes will go and who will fly them.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Forgot about CHQ in ATL. Also the great idea to move DL agents to ASA for gate and ramp.

Shuttle America, a subsidiary of Republic, and sister company to Chautauqua already operates in ATL.

 

[CrownandCoke]

You may be right but Delta just ordered a bunch of -900s. Your staffing may be low now, but there's always pilots to be found. They'd only need about 150 pilots to staff 30 airplanes. That's just 3 months of hiring. If ASA can still fill classes, surely Pinnacle can.

I don't see your ship sinking. Pinnacle is one of the last untapped resources in the commuter world because you don't already fly for multiple partners. Pinnacle wants to and needs to diversify, because NWA is the sinking ship.

As for not wanting to "be that guy" unfortunately, pilots aren't given the choice of where airplanes will go and who will fly them.

yeah, but isn't there something about ASA having to do 80% of the flying for Delta out of ATL? Or is that bunk? My buddy told me this, so I dunno.

That's the problem. We do our jobs well. People know we fly the CRJ for cheap and understaffed. I personally wouldn't mind if we flew for DAL, but not at the expense of ASA pilots. Freedom/Mesa pilots I could care less, but not ASA. I know it's the nature of the beast, but if my friends lose hours/jobs because of this, I'm not sure i could do this job anymore.

 

[Leroy Smith]

Shuttle America, a subsidiary of Republic, and sister company to Chautauqua already operates in ATL.

Actually, the E-145's with RP tail #s that park at Delta's A&B gates are CHQ. They have been for almost a year now.

 

[John Pennekamp]

yeah, but isn't there something about ASA having to do 80% of the flying for Delta out of ATL? Or is that bunk? My buddy told me this, so I dunno.

True that's currently part of the DCI agreement, but according to management, this move will trigger a "complete renegotiation" of the contract because it basically nukes the pay system ASA currently enjoys.

That's the problem. We do our jobs well. People know we fly the CRJ for cheap and understaffed. I personally wouldn't mind if we flew for DAL, but not at the expense of ASA pilots. Freedom/Mesa pilots I could care less, but not ASA. I know it's the nature of the beast, but if my friends lose hours/jobs because of this, I'm not sure i could do this job anymore.

That's very admirable that you would quit your job rather than fly routes formerly flown by ASA, but it's not very smart. We've all had to do it, it's just part of life at a commuter nowadays. Nobody "owns" any routes or flying, we're all just whores.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Actually, the E-145's with RP tail #s that park at Delta's A&B gates are CHQ. They have been for almost a year now.

That's interesting. Who uses the "Brickyard" call sign? CHQ or SA?

 

[WMUSIGPI]

Niether, Brickyard is Republic.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Niether, Brickyard is Republic.

OK. Well the DCI E170s in ATL all seem to use "Brickyard".

 

[Stick Man]

OK. Well the DCI E170s in ATL all seem to use "Brickyard".

WRONG - Republic operates US AIR 170's from PHL to ATL. DL and UNITED 170's are only Shuttle America.

 

[John Pennekamp]

WRONG - Republic operates US AIR 170's from PHL to ATL. DL and UNITED 170's are only Shuttle America.

"WRONG"?!! Don't be a dick. And I guess I was mistaken.

 

[TOOL CRIB]

WRONG - Republic operates US AIR 170's from PHL to ATL. DL and UNITED 170's are only Shuttle America.

Correct. And SA uses "Shuttlecraft" (because they are all Star Wars geeks)

 

[EMB170Pilot]

Correct. And SA uses "Shuttlecraft" (because they are all Star Wars geeks)

dont u mean star trek?

i hate star trek!

btw, when is the "new" callsign gonna take place for shuttle? something cool i bet

 

[TAWS]

Correct. And SA uses "Shuttlecraft" (because they are all Star Wars geeks)

Make it so number 1.

 

[Stick Man]

"WRONG"?!! Don't be a dick. And I guess I was mistaken.

edited cause you were WRONG . . . you know "what you heard"? LOL

 

[Bdfg1]

"WRONG"?!! Don't be a dick.

HAHA practice what you preach!

 

[Stick Man]

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he's got a lot to say and way too much time on his hands

 

[Texx]

Join Date: 02-21-2006

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he's got a lot to say and way too much time on his hands

He had another name also.