6 Days In a Row?

[Gnarloooo]

Is it normal at other regionals to work six days in a row like it is at SkyWest, or do you have some kind of protection from such nonsense? PBS is a POS.

 

[WWEfan]

Do you really not know the answer?

As long as a company doesn't exceed 6 days in a row, 30/7, 100/month or 1,000/yr they dont care what your schedule is. It is no different at any company.

 

[ohplease!]

Is it normal at other regionals to work six days in a row like it is at SkyWest, or do you have some kind of protection from such nonsense? PBS is a POS.

it is if you're junior enough or you get integrated.

 

[chperplt]

Do you really not know the answer?

As long as a company doesn't exceed 6 days in a row, 30/7, 100/month or 1,000/yr they dont care what your schedule is. It is no different at any company.

There is no regulation that forbids working in excess of 6 days in a row. You are required to have 24 hours free from duty every 7 days, not 1 day off every 7 days.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

Is it normal at other regionals to work six days in a row like it is at SkyWest, or do you have some kind of protection from such nonsense? PBS is a POS.

I've never involuntarily worked 6 days in a row at XJT, even on reserve. Not trying to gloat, just answering your question. Our hard lines are never built with more than 4 days of consecutive duty. Reserve lines sometimes have 5 days of duty.

The only exception to this is the charter department, which has a significant pay override and still has 14 days off per month.

 

[DrewBlows]

There is no regulation that forbids working in excess of 6 days in a row. You are required to have 24 hours free from duty every 7 days, not 1 day off every 7 days.

Our contract stipulates that you must have one calender day off, in domicile, for any 7 day period. I frequently work 6 days in a row on reserve.

 

[ERJFO]

From the contract I work under:

" regular lines will be constructed to provide at least 2 days off at the pilot’s domicile during any 7 consecutive day period"


"The Company will construct trips with 1 to 4 days of duty"


"The rules for regular line construction will apply to relief lines (build-up/conversion lines at some places)"

"reserve lines will be constructed to provide at least 2 consecutive days off at the pilot’s domicile during any 7 consecutive day period."​

So no, it looks like you can't work 6 days straight everywhere.​

 

[Gnarloooo]

Do you really not know the answer?

As long as a company doesn't exceed 6 days in a row, 30/7, 100/month or 1,000/yr they dont care what your schedule is. It is no different at any company.

Yes, I know the rules you tool. But just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Yes, I know the rules you tool. But just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD.

So what's your point? You work for a company that works you 6 days straight.

 

[CheeseDick]

I made all seven layers work block length 3-5 and still ended up with one six day trip.

Looks like there is nothing you can do.

And I won't even get started on the 75-85 credit hour bid and pbs giving me 96. I would think with 40 people or so under me at ORD, I'd be done with the CN's

 

[goahead]

From the contract I work under:

" regular lines will be constructed to provide at least 2 days off at the pilot’s domicile during any 7 consecutive day period"


"The Company will construct trips with 1 to 4 days of duty"


"The rules for regular line construction will apply to relief lines (build-up/conversion lines at some places)"

"reserve lines will be constructed to provide at least 2 consecutive days off at the pilot’s domicile during any 7 consecutive day period."​

So no, it looks like you can't work 6 days straight everywhere.​

LUCKY FUKKER

 

[joe_pilot]

Is it normal at other regionals to work six days in a row like it is at SkyWest, or do you have some kind of protection from such nonsense? PBS is a POS.

It is not normal at SkyWest either. It really sucks if that is your schedule, really. I have never been scheduled for six days in a row, nor have any of the people I know.

I have worked 6 days in a row with a 24 hour period off in a hotel and then worked a 3 day. That was by my own choosing so I could have 12 days off after that.

Your schedule WILL get better. 6 Days in a row is NOT normal.

If you are SLC based, PM me. Maybe I can help you out.

-JP

 

[Gr82Aviate]

It is not normal at SkyWest either. It really sucks if that is your schedule, really. I have never been scheduled for six days in a row, nor have any of the people I know.

I have worked 6 days in a row with a 24 hour period off in a hotel and then worked a 3 day. That was by my own choosing so I could have 12 days off after that.

Your schedule WILL get better. 6 Days in a row is NOT normal.

If you are SLC based, PM me. Maybe I can help you out.

-JP

A lot of us never had 6 days in a row, PRIOR to pBS!!!!!!

 

[strega7]

A lot of us never had 6 days in a row, PRIOR to pBS!!!!!!

And a lot of us never had the ability to get schedules that, while maybe working 6 days straight once or twice a month, gives you the power to construct "lines" that have 9, 10 , or more day of in a row and not use vacation/user time to go get time off. Under the old system, the great lines never had more than 7 days off in a row. PBS gives you the chance to bid for time off.

 

[WWEfan]

Yes, I know the rules you tool. But just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD.

If you know the rules then quit crying about them. Wait. I have an idea. Go to your union reps and tell them you won't sign another contract unless it protects your quality of life. Oh wait.....you work for SKYW. My bad.

 

[Soverytired]

Do I even need to add this?

Mesa: 50 % of the reserve lines in PHX are 6 on, 2 off.


What, is that not normal or something?


Wheeeeeeee!

 

[CFI2766]

I'm on reserve and haven't flown in 11 days.

I don't think I should complain about this, but I'm afraid I'm not going to remember how to fly when they do call me for a trip.

I'm VERY bored sitting around the house.

 

[chperplt]

Our contract stipulates that you must have one calender day off, in domicile, for any 7 day period. I frequently work 6 days in a row on reserve.

Your contract would not be a regulation... it's a contract. There is no regulation that requires a calender day off.

 

[belchfire]

Yes, I know the rules you tool. But just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD.

Wassa mattah, someone puts de sand in your kotex???

hehehehehehe...

 

[flyf15]

It seems like I couldn't work 6 days a row even if I tried. Lately I've been 30/7ing after 4 days almost every week. Oh the joys of working for a horribly understaffed airline.

 

[AdolphOlivrbush]

Is it an actual 6-day trip, or a 4x2/2x4? I had the later both in Dec in ORD and Jan in DEN. Both CN pairings...Looking at the big picture, things could be worse!

 

[frapper]

These are areas that you can negotiate if you vote in a union!

Wait... let me get comfortable! Alright, lets get it on!!!

 

[AdolphOlivrbush]

yeah, i see that is working real well for our ALPA friends at Comair, ASA, etc. I feel sorry for those folks. we too could give up money, jets, QoL, etc. Where do I sign up? Oh wait, I threw my stack of cards out.

The only way it would work is for regionals to have their own, seperate union, that every regional is a member of. ALPA representing the majors and a half dozen regionals ain't workin!!! We all have to be part of the same union that represents regional pilots only...that's only way we'll ever have any bargaining power. I'm not opposed to a union, but ALPA isn't the answer at this time. Go ahead boys, have fun with this one!!!

 

[Gnarloooo]

If you know the rules then quit crying about them. Wait. I have an idea. Go to your union reps and tell them you won't sign another contract unless it protects your quality of life. Oh wait.....you work for SKYW. My bad.

I'm sorry, you must have thought I called you a tool because of your post. No, I was calling you a tool because you are a wrestling fan. And as everybody knows, if you like wrestling, you are just a simple minded redneck idiot....or "tool" for short. Plus, if you like watching men in tights rolling around on the floor getting all sweaty and grunting loudly, then I think you might want to take another look at your sexual preference.

 

[HelloNewman]

And a lot of us never had the ability to get schedules that, while maybe working 6 days straight once or twice a month, gives you the power to construct "lines" that have 9, 10 , or more day of in a row and not use vacation/user time to go get time off. Under the old system, the great lines never had more than 7 days off in a row. PBS gives you the chance to bid for time off.

Well said. Also add the fact that you usually had to do the same trip all month which was quite boring. If you needed certain days off you had to risk throwing the rest of the month away just to get the days you needed. PBS is just what the doctor ordered. I haven't worked 6 days in a row in a long time unless i specifically bid for it. Bidding for hard lines again would be like going back to the stone age. I predict every airline will have PBS in the next 10-15 years.

 

[Gnarloooo]

Well said. Also add the fact that you usually had to do the same trip all month which was quite boring. If you needed certain days off you had to risk throwing the rest of the month away just to get the days you needed. PBS is just what the doctor ordered. I haven't worked 6 days in a row in a long time unless i specifically bid for it. Bidding for hard lines again would be like going back to the stone age. I predict every airline will have PBS in the next 10-15 years.

How is it that you have such a knack for saying the dumbest things possible? Did you go to school for that?

 

[NJA bound]

Whatchu talkin bout Willis?
We work 6.5 days and get 7.5 days off, except when you're on one of the 7 day vacations newhires get twice a year, than you get 21 days off for each 7 day vacation.

 

[sperfly]

My last flight was in a King Air to Bimini over a week ago I can't wait to fly again. I'm really bored right now. I sh!t wrong forum.

 

[HelloNewman]

How is it that you have such a knack for saying the dumbest things possible? Did you go to school for that?

How is that dumb oh wise one?? What domicile are you in? What is your relatvie senority? Do you have a training event scheduled for the month? Working 6 days in a row is not common. As you get more senior in a large base it will almost never happen unless you have a training event scheduled. PBS has been a lot better for crewmembers. The last poll showed the majority are happy with PBS and wouldn't want to go back. The most important thing to remember is PBS isn't going away. Learn all the tricks of the trade, gain some senority and your schedules will be way better than any hardline could have ever given you. This is the way it is at every airline hardlines or not. You need the senority to start getting the good schedules.

BTW it would be completely legal for them to build hardlines that work 6 days in a row. With staffing the way it is im sure more hardlines would have been build like that anyway. With PBS at least have a bit more control over your life.

 

[wickedpilot]

If you know the rules then quit crying about them. Wait. I have an idea. Go to your union reps and tell them you won't sign another contract unless it protects your quality of life. Oh wait.....you work for SKYW. My bad.

what's your point? My QOL has included 6-day stretches for the past 3 months and my union dues are going to the same place yours are.