Taking a 152 Across "the Pond"

[ShyFlyGuy]

Anyone ever heard of flying a 152 across the pond? There are tons over there, and they had to get there somehow. I've got a prospective buyer over there and a death wish, so:

-Are there aux tanks for the cabin of a 152?
-What kind of permits/user fees am I looking at?
-How much is 100LL in Greenland, Iceland, England, and Europe?
-Can one rent those cold-weather full-body lifesuits?
-What kind of additional equipment am I gonna need?
-Flight will be from the Chicago-are to Warsaw, Poland (I'm figuring about 4700NM, 45-48 hours)

Any info or not-so-obvious considerations I need to factor in would be appreciated.

Shy

 

[SPilot]

Did you read the recent article about ferry flying in AOPA Pilot? February 07 page 87.

 

[NW_Pilot]

Yea, it can be done but would be cheaper to crate it up and ship it!!! The ferry tank alone will cost almost $2,000 to $3,000 and only 1 place in the U.S. I know of that will tank a 150 they are in California.

last I paid for 100LL in Greenland I think they Hold the World Record About $13.00 a Gallon...

Yea, you can rent an immersion suit but best to buy a new one about $300.00

Don't forget about the Life Raft Rental & Return Shipping $$$$$ and a $1,200 min deposit on the thing.

Life Vest Also

Depending on Route HF Radio

But if the buyer has lots of dough to spend why not ferrying a buck fifty 2 across the pond would be a kick in the pants....

You may want to look at this ferry flight was done long ago by some other crazy ferry pilot!
http://www.cessna150-152.com/transatlantic.htm

Steven Rhine (Ferry Pilot)
www.ferrypilotservice.com

 

[NW_Pilot]

Did you read the recent article about ferry flying in AOPA Pilot? February 07 page 87.

Yea, I did.

 

[QueensPilot]

N W Pilot:
I'd like to Ferry aircraft one day. Is the crating idea going to cut in to the ferry business? Can larger aircraft, say a 182 or a Seneca be crated over? And I did read the AOPA article.
PM a guy named NIKOS1200 - he ferries all over the world.

Louie

 

[NW_Pilot]

N W Pilot:
I'd like to Ferry aircraft one day. Is the crating idea going to cut in to the ferry business? Can larger aircraft, say a 182 or a Seneca be crated over? And I did read the AOPA article.
PM a guy named NIKOS1200 - he ferries all over the world.

Louie

I have a PA28 going to South Africa as soon as the tanking company gives me the call sayin it's ready... I don't deal in containerizing airplanes to big a hassle to many things to deal with! And for ferrying aircraft to many people undercut and whore them selves out mostly on domestic flights!


Oh!! I have dropped a few planes off to places that crate them up and ship them...

 

[AC560]

I'd like to Ferry aircraft one day. Is the crating idea going to cut in to the ferry business? Can larger aircraft, say a 182 or a Seneca be crated over?

If you can easily pull the wings off and put them back on you can stick it in a container. I have shipped dozens and dozens of planes via container all over the world. For helicopters we tend to use a ro/ro vessel (roll on / roll off) which has no container just big holds though sometimes they go in containers as well. For seaplanes there is a company called Dockwise that I know has done some of them (boat sinks underneath boats/planes and then pumps water out leaving them in a dry hold).

You just have to add up the cost of pulling the wings off and putting them back on in addition to the transportation cost. If that is less then the ferrying cost it would be a better option. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. Same thing applies to repositioning yachts/boats (which is a huge business for both crewing to reposition by sailing and shipping by vessel).

 

[nosehair]

Oh!...and one more thing! Review the original movie "Jaws", they really do come that big.

 

[CrimsonEclipse]

Oh!...and one more thing! Review the original movie "Jaws", they really do come that big.

The cold water will get you first.

I've seen a 152 with a 30 gallon tank in the baggage area.
That would likely exceed the baggage limit if filled completely.

CE

 

[svcta]

I'll be the first: It's just not worth the risk. The North Atlantic will kill you in a matter of minutes. Dry suit or not(just more ,minutes to contemplate your death), raft or not, you will die if you ditch in that water. I know it's been done, but so have many other crazy things. And I do my fair share of crazy things.

I have a close friend over there who plays with vintage airplanes and it's too easy to have them shipped than to risk life and limb flying a 152 over.