Republic Announces New Premium Pay Overide

[trainer8]

Just posted on the Company web site. It's not April 1st, and it is pretty lucrative, too.

Premium Pay overide for working on a day off:

$30/hr for Captains

$15/hr for FOs

Seems RPA is really short flight crews due to training schedules, delivery shcedules, and the impact of weather the last couple weeks.

T8

 

[Atccfi]

Just posted on the Company web site. It's not April 1st, and it is pretty lucrative, too.

Premium Pay overide for working on a day off:

$30/hr for Captains

$15/hr for FOs

Seems RPA is really short flight crews. This should beat the doors down a little.

Is that indefinate or just for the mean time???

 

[trainer8]

Is that indefinate or just for the mean time???

Effective now through the end of March 07. Essentially, 5 weeks.

T8

 

[Axel]

It almost comes to time and a half. It's cheap, it's cheezy and it is an attempt to get the pilots to bail them out of a staffing shortage they created for themselves.

The management fights the pilots over nickels and dimes. If they are volunteering to give up money, they are in a real bind. RAH has been trying for months to cover the staffing shortage through rescheduling and they have come up short. It cuts them to the bone to throw a few sheckels at the pilots, it is just less expensive than it is to cancel flights.

As soon as this crisis is weathered, it will go back to business as usual. A little more concentration in the past on the goodwill of their labor groups and a little less concentration on wringing blood from a turnip would be paying off for them right now.

It's not the lousy five bucks, it's the principle of the thing.

 

[trainer8]

It almost comes to time and a half. It's cheap, it's cheezy and it is an attempt to get the pilots to bail them out of a staffing shortage they created for themselves.

The management fights the pilots over nickels and dimes. If they are volunteering to give up money, they are in a real bind. RAH has been trying for months to cover the staffing shortage through rescheduling and they have come up short. It cuts them to the bone to throw a few sheckels at the pilots, it is just less expensive than it is to cancel flights.

As soon as this crisis is weathered, it will go back to business as usual. A little more concentration in the past on the goodwill of their labor groups and a little less concentration on wringing blood from a turnip would be paying off for them right now.

It's not the lousy five bucks, it's the principle of the thing.

I'm trying to imagine WH in his office in a curled up in fetal position, probably naked, with puffy red eyes over signing off of this temporary incentive pay.

T8

 

[Oakum_Boy]

SO a day off is worth 30 an hour? Minus taxes? Why don't you tell them what you'll do it for.

 

[Beechnut]

That's not even time and a half on an all ready low pay rate.

Gee, you guys have it good!

S.

 

[hyperboy]

mesa

Mesa has been paying double time for at least 7 months we are kinda in the same boat. I don't pick up open time at all but that is what JA pay is as well.

NO ONE SHOULD PICK UP OPEN TIME AT MESA!

 

[Axel]

SO a day off is worth 30 an hour? Minus taxes? Why don't you tell them what you'll do it for.

Actually, the company approached our EC with this. The EC countered:

Straight time and a half
6 hour minimum
LOA making it permanent.

Company responded to the counter by posting its first offer as "new policy" in its original form on the company intranet. Now we see whether there are enough "working girls" to carry the company through its self inflicted crisis.

The EC is opposed to it, but can't publicly call for "no OT" without running afoul of the RLA.

 

[hyperboy]

nice post

Nice post Axel!

 

[trainer8]

SO a day off is worth 30 an hour? Minus taxes? Why don't you tell them what you'll do it for.

The $30/hr is an overide...on top of regular pay; the time (hours) is added to min gaurantee.

 

[bigbird]

Not enough. Give captains 60$ an hour and FOs 30$. As a FO why would I come in and make an extra 45$ a day after taxes? Its not worth my time.

 

[The Drizzle]

I'm plagiarizing here, from our board, but it needs to be seen:


I know that is sounds tempting to take it now, but for me personally, my days off are worth more than an extra 30 dollars an hour. I just can't give anymore to this company. And I won't.

They continue to take and abuse from this group; they are doing this only because they are in a really bad position that they have created.

This is not out of the kindness of their hearts, or appreciation for all of us that have made them very, very rich.

This "overtime" offer will not make me forget:

-the problems we have with understaffing
-the problems we have with incompetent dispatchers and schedulers
-violation of contract with respect to use of reserves
-abuse of re-schedules
-abuse of PBS minimum schedules (grievance lost over 82 hr min as opposed to contractual 78 hours)
-illegal and unsafe attendance policy
-unsafe and unwarranted intimidation with fatigue calls
-violation of contract with respect to medical benefits and associated grievance
-company refusal to pay above lost grievance and dragging it's "feet" in meeting it obligation to the re-pay pilot group
-Joe C. abuse of awarding and denying PDOs based on his own "rules"
-the bait and switch with respect to awarding pilots bases
-continual opening and closing of bases for cost savings to company
-unreturned and or ignored emails and phone calls over important matters from members of the pilot group
-the terrible, inefficient pairings that require us to work more inefficient days and the excuse that nothing can be done to help us (add these pairings to the abuse of PBS min target of 82 hours and we are getting 12 and 13 days off a month)
-the unprofessional and disrespectful manner in which scheduing gets to speak to us
-the hoops we have to jump through sometimes to get paid correctly with Jill and Joe C
-the manner in which "nasy grams" are sent out
-how the "guiding principles" are a total joke that are nothing more than investor fluff
-the way we are preached at by our spiritual leader and the total disconnect he has with the reality of the way his company is being run
-the intreprtation of the contract with respect to "dispalcements"
-the intreprtation of the contract and grievance we lost over awarding "open time"
-the pressure put on us to fly airplanes that are broken and fixed with the "ops check oK" magic wand
-dispatchers giving us bingo fuels so far off at times I wonder if they are just making things up
-the overall disdain and contempt with which we are held
-the illegal and immoral termination of 125 pilots in 2001 so that the company could play a shell game with saabs and show more of a profit at the end of the year (they did too; over 9milion in profit)
-drug out contract proceedings last time; cancelled meetings last minute; made us look like greedy pilots; all in order to save money

But I am sure you get the picture.

 

[StarChecker]

I'm trying to imagine WH in his office in a curled up in fetal position, probably naked, with puffy red eyes over signing off of this temporary incentive pay.

T8

Oh my God, you just made my day with that image. Thank you.


BTW, NO ONE at RAH should pick up OT. They're desperate...make them fix the real problems...don't subsidize their incompetance by jumping through this hoop.

It's not worth it.

 

[hockeypilot44]

Republic is falling apart. This really is not a good place to be right now believe it or not. Come to think of it, there really is not any regional airline worth going to.

 

[sweptback]

ASA is going through the same thing, except they are paying us time and a half. Guys are falling over themselves trying to pick it up. They know that they're hurting their negotiating position by doing so, however the party line is, "if I don't pick it up, they're just going to extend somebody else to do it."

I expect the same things will happen over there. Guys will pound their chest on the webboards and say they won't do it, but when push comes to shove, the majority of your pilot group will be taking management up on their offer.

 

[Axel]

... Guys will pound their chest on the webboards and say they won't do it, but when push comes to shove, the majority of your pilot group will be taking management up on their offer.

Then blaming "the union" for being ineffective.

 

[N tha jungle]

Wow- I glad you all still remember that!

-"the illegal and immoral termination of 125 pilots in 2001 so that the company could play a shell game with saabs"

As one of those "terminated" from CHQ in 01 I am happy to see there are lots of folks there who remember what your company did to your fellow bros and sistas. I was crushed at the time when I was fired, by letter, no less. Those who received it will recall what it said, "We regret to inform you that your position with CHQ has been eliminated. Good luck in your future endevors." What horse$&!t. Just remember, you are never safe, especially on probation there. Anyway, I can now say it was the best thing that could have happened to me. For those at CHQ now, did many of the 125 end up coming back the following summer or move on? Just curious.

 

[sf340flyer]

When I was at RAH, I would play lets make a deal with OT. When called I would say all I could do was a ORD turn for 8 hours of pay. Scheduling would say they couldn't do that, and then call me back later and say that it was a deal. If you do that make sure you get it in writing BEFORE you leave on the flight. Back in 99 guys were getting up to 16 hours a day.

A guy I flew with had the best excuse when SCH called for OT. "I have good news and bad news. The good is I have an unopened can of beer in my hand, the bad, it's not the first of the day."

 

[ballsdeep123]

I'm plagiarizing here, from our board, but it needs to be seen:


I know that is sounds tempting to take it now, but for me personally, my days off are worth more than an extra 30 dollars an hour. I just can't give anymore to this company. And I won't.

They continue to take and abuse from this group; they are doing this only because they are in a really bad position that they have created.

This is not out of the kindness of their hearts, or appreciation for all of us that have made them very, very rich.

This "overtime" offer will not make me forget:

-the problems we have with understaffing
-the problems we have with incompetent dispatchers and schedulers
-violation of contract with respect to use of reserves
-abuse of re-schedules
-abuse of PBS minimum schedules (grievance lost over 82 hr min as opposed to contractual 78 hours)
-illegal and unsafe attendance policy
-unsafe and unwarranted intimidation with fatigue calls
-violation of contract with respect to medical benefits and associated grievance
-company refusal to pay above lost grievance and dragging it's "feet" in meeting it obligation to the re-pay pilot group
-Joe C. abuse of awarding and denying PDOs based on his own "rules"
-the bait and switch with respect to awarding pilots bases
-continual opening and closing of bases for cost savings to company
-unreturned and or ignored emails and phone calls over important matters from members of the pilot group
-the terrible, inefficient pairings that require us to work more inefficient days and the excuse that nothing can be done to help us (add these pairings to the abuse of PBS min target of 82 hours and we are getting 12 and 13 days off a month)
-the unprofessional and disrespectful manner in which scheduing gets to speak to us
-the hoops we have to jump through sometimes to get paid correctly with Jill and Joe C
-the manner in which "nasy grams" are sent out
-how the "guiding principles" are a total joke that are nothing more than investor fluff
-the way we are preached at by our spiritual leader and the total disconnect he has with the reality of the way his company is being run
-the intreprtation of the contract with respect to "dispalcements"
-the intreprtation of the contract and grievance we lost over awarding "open time"
-the pressure put on us to fly airplanes that are broken and fixed with the "ops check oK" magic wand
-dispatchers giving us bingo fuels so far off at times I wonder if they are just making things up
-the overall disdain and contempt with which we are held
-the illegal and immoral termination of 125 pilots in 2001 so that the company could play a shell game with saabs and show more of a profit at the end of the year (they did too; over 9milion in profit)
-drug out contract proceedings last time; cancelled meetings last minute; made us look like greedy pilots; all in order to save money

But I am sure you get the picture.

Wow, all of that makes me not want to complain about where I work. That would p1ss me off that Brian thinks he is such a religious leader and yet treats his employees like sh1t.

Great post though by whoever wrote that.

 

[The Drizzle]

The hits just keep on coming, a CRJ class was just cancelled. Said it was due to not being able to fill it, more likely they want us flying our current airplanes instead of being in class for a month or two being unproductive.

 

[comrcap]

you pinheads take less than 1.5 x rate? No surprise you crawl under yet another bar!

 

[The Drizzle]

you pinheads take less than 1.5 x rate? No surprise you crawl under yet another bar!

we aren't taking anything, this is the company imposing this. I'm not taking any, i never have and i won't start now. This memo was a response to our EC's offer that was a real overtime premium. I'm sure there will be those who will fly for so little, that is their choice and they will do what they want anyway.

 

[surplus1]

Doesn't your contract already give you time-and-one-half (premium pay) for picking up open time or flying on your 'off' day?

 

[The Drizzle]

now why would they be offering incentive if we already had one.

 

[surplus1]

Maybe you'll get it next time you negotiate.

 

[The Drizzle]

Maybe you'll get it next time you negotiate.

there fukcing better be

 

[flyer172r]

Doesn't your contract already give you time-and-one-half (premium pay) for picking up open time or flying on your 'off' day?

From what I've heard from the captains I've flown with, every contract the pilots ask for time and a half for open time, and the company responds by asking for junior manning. So far the pilots haven't been willing to make the trade.

 

[Rouge Warrior]

SJS acid reflux, just kidding. Thats why I left contract or no it wasn't worth it. The inability of RAH to see the writing on the wall will lead major problems.
Don't take the OT and make JC squirm. Looks like more 300 wonders from Purdue HAHAHA.

 

[hockeypilot44]

They have not hired a Purdue grad that was not from another airline in almost three years.