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Doesn't your contract already give you time-and-one-half (premium pay) for picking up open time or flying on your 'off' day?
Currently there is a straight four hours above guarantee for each day you fly. So some incentive, not much. Personally no amount of money is gonna tempt me to give up one of my 12-13 days off with all the stupid airport sits we do here.
 
Currently there is a straight four hours above guarantee for each day you fly. So some incentive, not much. Personally no amount of money is gonna tempt me to give up one of my 12-13 days off with all the stupid airport sits we do here.

How long are your airport sits? 2 hrs? 3?? How many legs a day? And is 12-13 days off standard for lineholders? How many days off for a typical lineholder? how about a senior one?
 
Anywhere from 2-5 hours. The contract requires hotels for 5 hours or more so the company artfully arranges trips to look like this: fly to Philly, sit for 3 hrs, fly to LGA, sit for 4 more hours, fly turn, layover. In the end you have a 14 hr duty day blocked for 4-5 hours which REALLY sucks. Right now lineholders in a couple bases and seats are managing 15-18 days off but the vast majority of us are running 12-14 no matter what our seniority. Average 3-5 legs per day, but lots of multi-day trips start with 3, end with 5, and will have a day with ONE leg in the middle.
 
At RAH, if the pilot picks up stuff out of open time voluntarily, it is straight pay. If scheduling contacts the pilot to pick up overtime, the pilot receives 4 hours of pay, or has a day off restore later in the month.
 
Man, no wonder you guys have shown up around IAH with a frown on your faces.... I had no idea that your trips (probably outside of the CAL flying) are only blocked to 4-5 hrs with 14-15 hr duty days? Cant imagine the CAL stuff is any better for a startup operation.

You guys will probably take another 25% of CAL flying from us in '09, but I just got done with a 7:40 block day trip, 4 legs, one sit to change planes of 1 hr, show of 0530 and back in the parking lot at 1630...not bad. Life is pretty good at XJT, at least while we have a big customer in CAL.
 
They have not hired a Purdue grad that was not from another airline in almost three years.

I can bet you that they will when they start cancelling flights and get the threat of cancelling the contract for completion factor dropping off. But then again you get what you pay for.
 
At RAH, if the pilot picks up stuff out of open time voluntarily, it is straight pay. If scheduling contacts the pilot to pick up overtime, the pilot receives 4 hours of pay, or has a day off restore later in the month.


ERJ,


Not quite. Maybe you just worded it wrong.

You get 4+ hours or better if you get called for OT or pick it up yourself on a day off.
If your trip gets jacked up and causes the flt to XLD or rolls over into a day off, then you get the 4+ hours or a day off.

There is no JR manning.
 
Anywhere from 2-5 hours. The contract requires hotels for 5 hours or more so the company artfully arranges trips to look like this: fly to Philly, sit for 3 hrs, fly to LGA, sit for 4 more hours, fly turn, layover. In the end you have a 14 hr duty day blocked for 4-5 hours which REALLY sucks. Right now lineholders in a couple bases and seats are managing 15-18 days off but the vast majority of us are running 12-14 no matter what our seniority. Average 3-5 legs per day, but lots of multi-day trips start with 3, end with 5, and will have a day with ONE leg in the middle.

Seems if you guys are so short with all the flying you have that they would make you a bit more productive.
 
Pucking a sub standard contract with the promise of a bunch of shiny new jets Comair was suppose to get kinda bit you in the arss hugh?
LOL. What a bunch of whores.
 
Pucking a sub standard contract with the promise of a bunch of shiny new jets Comair was suppose to get kinda bit you in the arss hugh?
LOL. What a bunch of whores.

Yeah. We got exactly 7 more planes that Comair was "supposed" to get after this contract was signed. None of which was promised by anyone. Go ******************** yourself.
 
Yeah. We got exactly 7 more planes that Comair was "supposed" to get after this contract was signed. None of which was promised by anyone. Go ******************** yourself.

Actually, Comair had orders and options for 550 planes when Delta bought us....

Then the whores lined up like babes in a candy store.
 
Actually, Comair had orders and options for 550 planes when Delta bought us....

Then the whores lined up like babes in a candy store.

You have every right to be upset about what has happened to Comair, but no right at all to blame it on the pilots of CHQ, or for that matter those of any other airline.

There is only one entity responsible for what has happened to Comair and its name is Delta Air Lines [management].

Don't play their game; focus your anger where it belongs.
 

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