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CelticCitation

CelticCitation

Larry Wannabe
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Who of the reported 1500 applicants are getting e-mails for interviews? I've read all the ideas about who everyone thinks is getting called, but who really is? Military? Regional? Taco Bell night managers?
 
Dude, Don't worry about it, when the retirement age is raised to 65 NO ONE will be getting called to Delta....and if I were hired there over the last year....I'd be looking for something else as back-up...But look at the bright side...maybe one of those old guys will buy you a dinner before you are kicked out on the street.....using his senior citizen discount of course......that's certainly not discriminatory.
 
I haven't applied. But I don't think there are that many old dudes left at Delta, what with the pension issues and early retirements. My interest is for other reasons.
 
El Pobre said:
Dude, Don't worry about it, when the retirement age is raised to 65 NO ONE will be getting called to Delta....and if I were hired there over the last year....I'd be looking for something else as back-up...But look at the bright side...maybe one of those old guys will buy you a dinner before you are kicked out on the street.....using his senior citizen discount of course......that's certainly not discriminatory.
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Actually, we really don't have that problem. We weren't going to hire for loss of pilots, but rather expansion. We early retired 2300 pilots in the last 3 years due to the pension problems(we have 300 oilder than 55, and 1000 total over 50), and we have also parked all of our older planes (737-200s etc). We are getting new airplanes, and using our exisiting planes on more INTL routes, requiring more pilots. We just made a deal with Boeing to get 10 737-700s and 5 more 777s, and we are getting 15-19 ex TWA 757-200ERs starting in July of this year (2 a month). Rumors are also out there that we will order many 787s and more 737-700s upon exit of BK.

Junior pilots will get the MD88 or 738 first, but have a chance at bigger relatively soon. I hear our LA 757/767 base is very junior, and the NY 767ER INTL flying has gone junior too. Your pick.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
actually if age 65 becomes reality, Delta is the place you want to be. Our movement short term will be from growth. As many have pointed out, we don't have many pilots over the age of 55. Some place like CO may shut down hiring for a few years if age 65 comes to pass. And at Fedex/UPS which still has over 60 FEs, you may well move backward as those guys bid back to the left seat.
 
El Pobre said:
Uh....sure...And when you all become USAIR errr America West....or whoever...how is that going to work?
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Very Very Unlikely. Really. But, with NWA (which actually could pass the DOJ scrutiny), it could be really good, with little or zero plane parkings. (and plenty of new planes coming)

Poor, poor El pobre.....


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
Yeah, if Age 65 does happen, movement at Fedex and UPS will actually go backwards, since there are plenty of over age 60 guys on the FE panel. If they kept their seniority, they will bid BACK to Captain, and FOs would move back to FE probably. Ouch. No FE slots at DL.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
General Lee said:
Yeah, if Age 65 does happen, movement at Fedex and UPS will actually go backwards, since there are plenty of over age 60 guys on the FE panel. If they kept their seniority, they will bid BACK to Captain, and FOs would move back to FE probably. Ouch. No FE slots at DL.


Bye Bye--General Lee
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Does that happen at Delta? If there are say 10 Capt openings, and thirty senior guys bid for them does it push out 20 jr guys to accommodate?
 
BiffF15 said:
Does that happen at Delta? If there are say 10 Capt openings, and thirty senior guys bid for them does it push out 20 jr guys to accommodate?
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untested territory at any airline. But, I would bet over 60 FEs will sue, arguing that they were forced to the panel by a now outdated law.
 
michael707767 said:
untested territory at any airline. But, I would bet over 60 FEs will sue, arguing that they were forced to the panel by a now outdated law.
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Yes, it is untested. However, I will bet they will have to wait until the next bid for Capt's to get the "upgrade". Meanwhile I'm sure folks will sue, it's the American way. "It's not my fault, you owe, and I'll sue for anything".
 
BiffF15 said:
Does that happen at Delta? If there are say 10 Capt openings, and thirty senior guys bid for them does it push out 20 jr guys to accommodate?
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No. If there is a base closing or fleet parking, then yes. But we have already parked our planes that needed to be parked. There are rumors that we may move the NYC 738 base to CVG and maybe some MD88s from CVG to NY, but that is about it.

All of our guys that took early retirement cannot come back. What I was talking about with regard to UPS or Fedex was the FE and over age 60 factor. Airlines with Flight Engineers still allow pilots over 60 to be FEs. We don't have FEs or planes that need FEs at DL. The problem with UPS and Fedex is that if age 60 increases to 65, and there are some senior guys on the FE position at UPS or FedEx, they could rebid a Capt seat if a bid appears. That would bump people backwards at those airlines, or cause a lot more stagnation. Those FEs could sue to maybe get their seats back. Our retired guys will not come back because they took their money and ran.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
You're boring, now take your bottle and go back to bed junior. Remember you have a 5 am show time on the rj!

737
 
Both you guys STOP IT! You're making GL look well-adjusted...;) TC
 
To answer the question, yes- I know of two guys that have interviews next week. They received the email about ten days ago and then called back to schedule the interview.
 
Well - what was the source of their Silver Bullet? Military, Friends and Family? Enquiring minds want to know.
 
I have a good friend who is interviewing at DAL on the 30th. He knew someone very involved in the application site thus being one of the first to interview. I was trying to get him on at CAL but he lives in ATL and will probably take the DAL offer if given the choice.

IAHERJ
 
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Well - what was the source of their Silver Bullet? Military, Friends and Family? Enquiring minds want to know.
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Both of the ones I know of work at a DCI carrier and had a letter on file from a Delta employee, but thats about it- they are just normal line pilots with a clean record.

There is hope for the rest of us, perhaps............
 
General Lee said:
Yeah, if Age 65 does happen, movement at Fedex and UPS will actually go backwards, since there are plenty of over age 60 guys on the FE panel. If they kept their seniority, they will bid BACK to Captain, and FOs would move back to FE probably. Ouch. No FE slots at DL.


Bye Bye--General Lee
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There would have to be a Captain bid for them to return to their Captain's seat, they wouldn't automatically bump those existing pilots.
 
rocket bob said:
There would have to be a Captain bid for them to return to their Captain's seat, they wouldn't automatically bump those existing pilots.
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maybe, maybe not. This has never come up so it has never been tested. But, you can bet at least one of those over 60 FEs will file a lawsuit to get his Captain seat back.
 

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