SLC-PIT in CRJ-900

[jonjuan]

, and why dont the windows line up with the seats?

You're obviously too tall.

 

[Muppets]

Yeah, no way could they fill a MD-80 between SLC and PIT. Wake up. Maybe next we will all fly the CRJ 1000, then the 1200, then the overseas 15000. This airplane is the elephant in the room, that noone wants to talk about.

 

[SBD]

Yeah, no way could they fill a MD-80 between SLC and PIT. Wake up. Maybe next we will all fly the CRJ 1000, then the 1200, then the overseas 15000. This airplane is the elephant in the room, that noone wants to talk about.

Funny!

 

[SSDD]

Yeah, no way could they fill a MD-80 between SLC and PIT. Wake up. Maybe next we will all fly the CRJ 1000, then the 1200, then the overseas 15000. This airplane is the elephant in the room, that noone wants to talk about.

Well the fact is they couldn't, not on a regular basis. Nor Toronto, nor Detroit, nor San Antonio...

 

[brnstrmr]

Isn't an RJ a replacement jet? So it replaces an MD-88, whats the problem, a CRJ900 is a fine airplane to finish out your career in, right?

 

[Av8rPHX]

hmmm can anybody say fuel stop when the winter winds kick in and an alternate is needed? I haven't flown the 900 yet but I wouldn't be suprised if there were fuel stops when the winds are strong and crap weather in SLC. Im sure the passengers will love that!

Or they will just bump pax and take extra fuel. I recall one time on a PHX-YEG we did a stop in GEG for fuel. Were able to take all pax, that was the exception, not the rule though. Most times in the winter on those flights the max we could take was around 75 pax and 70 bags.

 

[Sky-doggie]

And since the SKYW CRJ900 will only have 76 seats, that could allow maybe an additional 2500# of fuel. Just guessing here....

 

[homerjdispatch]

Or they will just bump pax and take extra fuel. I recall one time on a PHX-YEG we did a stop in GEG for fuel. Were able to take all pax, that was the exception, not the rule though. Most times in the winter on those flights the max we could take was around 75 pax and 70 bags.

And the SkyWest 900's are only going to be equipped to 76 seats...currently only 70 seats.

I did dispatch a YYZ-SLC flight a few weeks ago that we fuel stopped due to enroute winds and SLC needed an alternate. The problem wasnt the weight, it was the aircraft exceeded max tank capacity. No more fuel could be put on. I think SkyWest will "fuel' stop these flights as often as needed to avoid leaving a lot of people behind.

I know we "fuel" stop ORD-YEG in the -700 from time to time also.

 

[goahead]

And the SkyWest 900's are only going to be equipped to 76 seats...currently only 70 seats.

I did dispatch a YYZ-SLC flight a few weeks ago that we fuel stopped due to enroute winds and SLC needed an alternate. The problem wasnt the weight, it was the aircraft exceeded max tank capacity. No more fuel could be put on. I think SkyWest will "fuel' stop these flights as often as needed to avoid leaving a lot of people behind.

I know we "fuel" stop ORD-YEG in the -700 from time to time also.

The stupidest thing I've ever heard of, I know you have to do it, we've done it at ASA from DFW to the west coast b/4 and so has Jetblue on a trans con, but still not fair to the pax. We are after all about customer service. Maybe if you can't sell a full plane then you shouldn't in the winter.

 

[SF340Guy]

20 less people and 20 less bags. Thats 4500 lbs of extra gas. Fill 'er up. He11, thats alot of leg room, just add a bladder and go all the way to PHL, that'll show 'em. Even US Airways can't compete with the Skywest pay rates!!!

 

[homerjdispatch]

The stupidest thing I've ever heard of, I know you have to do it, we've done it at ASA from DFW to the west coast b/4 and so has Jetblue on a trans con, but still not fair to the pax. We are after all about customer service. Maybe if you can't sell a full plane then you shouldn't in the winter.

I agree that it's not fair to the passengers, but neither is leaving them behind because our "major partner" thinks its better to put RJ's on the city pair. Its not like we do it on every leg. Most of the time its not an issue.

Each flight is looked at on a case by case basis. I only know of 2 times we have had to fuel stop YYZ-SLC since we started the service. Both times, we thought it was better customer service by fuel stopping, than bumping passengers.

 

[RJAA]

The stupidest thing I've ever heard of, I know you have to do it, we've done it at ASA from DFW to the west coast b/4 and so has Jetblue on a trans con, but still not fair to the pax. We are after all about customer service. Maybe if you can't sell a full plane then you shouldn't in the winter.

The big D does not care. They sell them out anyways. During the earlier days of ATL-EYW-ATL on 70-seaters they would put a cap in reservation for 64 pax just so we could get it off the groud in 32C with min fuel with TS all over the place to FL400 but there were always like 72 revenue waiting to get on anyways! It was meaningless. Not sure what it is like now.

 

[Tomct]

Definately too far and too long in an RJ!!! 2 hours MAX and I am ready to open a can of WOOP ARSE!!!

 

[Foxcow]

Ouch, I only have about a 2.5 hour ass.

 

[007]

Congrats on that B-scale Delta Airlines.....

 

[RJidiot]

What a terrible decision by DL. That is entirely too long to sit in the back of an RJ. I had to DH a few weeks back on a 90 minute flight and it was horribly uncomfortable experience. If I was a business traveler I wouldn't do it again.

 

[crashpad]

Just another example of how transparent and selfish the Delta pilot group is. They voted in the scope, brought the company to chapter 11, and pi$$ on their customers....all while whining like spoiled little girls.
They still have a "one offline jumpseater only" policy and arrogantly expect to ride on your plane if there's an open seat. It's good to know pilots are sticking together now and denying them rides.
Just let the Gate Agent know you'll be taking one DL jumpseater if it's open and they'll scramble to get the policy changed faster than you can scream; "Mommy, I want that!".

 

[Minimaniac]

The big D does not care. They sell them out anyways. During the earlier days of ATL-EYW-ATL on 70-seaters they would put a cap in reservation for 64 pax just so we could get it off the groud in 32C with min fuel with TS all over the place to FL400 but there were always like 72 revenue waiting to get on anyways! It was meaningless. Not sure what it is like now.

72 pax, all the bags, 32 degrees C, enough gas, maximum thrust reduction possible out of EYW... go 170!

 

[John Pennekamp]

I don't understand what the fuss is all about. Ever ridden on a 1500 mile flight in coach on a Maddog? Or a 737-800? Or a 757 for that matter? Point is it's gonna be miserable in coach on any narrow body airplane. This is not a phenomenon exclusive to RJs, just a new opportunity to bash RJs and RJ pilots.

I still don't understand the sense of entitlement pilots seem to have over routes. The reason nearly every major airline is bankrupt is the notion that they need to fly "to anywhere from everywhere". Partially empty airplanes don't make money. If you can't fill your smallest airplane on a particular route your choices are either abandon the route to your competition, or contract it out to a FFD carrier on smaller equipment.

The -900 has first class to my knowledge. If a passenger can't stand a three hour flight in coach, then they should pony up just like they do in a "mainline" aircraft. This is not a problem unique to RJs.

 

[Crizz]

I don't understand what the fuss is all about. Ever ridden on a 1500 mile flight in coach on a Maddog? Or a 737-800? Or a 757 for that matter? Point is it's gonna be miserable in coach on any narrow body airplane. This is not a phenomenon exclusive to RJs, just a new opportunity to bash RJs and RJ pilots.

I still don't understand the sense of entitlement pilots seem to have over routes. The reason nearly every major airline is bankrupt is the notion that they need to fly "to anywhere from everywhere". Partially empty airplanes don't make money. If you can't fill your smallest airplane on a particular route your choices are either abandon the route to your competition, or contract it out to a FFD carrier on smaller equipment.

The -900 has first class to my knowledge. If a passenger can't stand a three hour flight in coach, then they should pony up just like they do in a "mainline" aircraft. This is not a problem unique to RJs.

Bingo! In many cases I'd rather ride in a 900 (with 70 seats) than a 757-300 in row 48B.

I'm still waiting for this to turn into a Skywest bashfest.