Skyw pay vote

[swoopyswoop]

Any predictions?

Nothing for the bro
14 cents/ hr. raise for newhires
current rates for the 50+ 1%
5% for actual block on the 70
the 90 will be paid the same as the 70
no reserve call out improvements
no 401k improvements
no trip rig
no vacation improvements
no minimum daily guarentee of 4.1
no retro
no cost of living adjustments
no time and a half for high average line hours
no transparent reserve list
no 18 duty day max

 

[amcnd]

Any predictions?

Nothing for the bro
14 cents/ hr. raise for newhires
current rates for the 50+ 1%
5% for actual block on the 70
the 90 will be paid the same as the 70
no reserve call out improvements
no 401k improvements
no trip rig
no vacation improvements
no minimum daily guarentee of 4.1
no retro
no cost of living adjustments
no time and a half for high average line hours
no transparent reserve list
no 18 duty day max

This is "pay only". Zoltar address the rest.

 

[wmuflyguy]

That is pretty pathetic. Especially with the profit the company makes.

 

[ASA Captain]

Please feel free to accept the offer, and then accept organized representation so that your next raise doesn't come at the whim of your president.

Within one year this "offer" will not be industry leading, as the SKYW charts show. ASA, CHQ, and MESA will all be negotiating beyond the pay rates on that chart.

Remember what they did last time you were offered a raise and it wasn't acceptable to the pilot group? How long ago was that? Is this offer all that much better?

 

[sstearns2]

That is pretty pathetic. Especially with the profit the company makes.

Our profit margin is not that great, around 5% post tax, maybe 8% pretax. I get a little tired of people talking about record profits. Yes it's true, but it's the profit margin that really matters. If our profit margin goes much lower then we start having problems getting the best financing deals and if we loose that advantage then we'll be looking at pay cuts for sure.

I think they can afford to do better than this package, but we should be realistic about the position managment is in.

Scott

 

[airtime42]

Our profit margin is not that great, around 5% post tax, maybe 8% pretax. I get a little tired of people talking about record profits. Yes it's true, but it's the profit margin that really matters. If our profit margin goes much lower then we start having problems getting the best financing deals and if we loose that advantage then we'll be looking at pay cuts for sure.

I think they can afford to do better than this package, but we should be realistic about the position managment is in.

Scott

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid. You blind scrub

 

[SkyNation]

'Kool-Aid' refers to Jim Jones convincing his followers of his errant message and killing them.

SkyWest pilots enjoy pay, QOL, etc. and future opportunities that don't exist at any other comparably engaged regional.

How does that equate to drinking the 'Kool-Aid' that will surely kill us?

Look around, and see who is really 'dying.'

 

[Bluto]

This is "pay only". Zoltar address the rest.

That is an awesome punch-line. Where's the rest of the joke? Zoltar is pretty much dead in the water from what I hear. What makes you think they'll come back to the table to negotiate any other improvements after this "generous" pay offer?

 

[Nightrain_080]

"Zoltar" needs to be changed to "Wanker"

Its going to be another 2 years or more of getting wankered around only to be offered another insulting offer.

"pay only" I say keep your dirty nickels and dimes and put up a real increase for the 700/900. Also the BRO.

$5.00 more an hour would be a lot easier than BHO fuzzy math overide, "Submit a BHO appendix D please. "

 

[urflyingme?!]

Ya well mesa makes about 1%, so you go tsome breathing room there guys

 

[redflyer65]

I'm not completely up to speed on Skywest, but let me see if I have this part right.....

You fly the 70-seat RJ at 50-seat rates, and the company is proposing flying the 90 at 70 seat rates? And this is good for the industry? Why not just fly an A320 for 50 seat rates then?

 

[MELIT]

Please feel free to accept the offer, and then accept organized representation so that your next raise doesn't come at the whim of your president.

Within one year this "offer" will not be industry leading, as the SKYW charts show. ASA, CHQ, and MESA will all be negotiating beyond the pay rates on that chart.

Remember what they did last time you were offered a raise and it wasn't acceptable to the pilot group? How long ago was that? Is this offer all that much better?

How is your raise coming at the whim of ALPA?:laugh:

 

["GO AROUND"]

How is your raise coming at the whim of ALPA?:laugh:

It's coming. We just have a set of rules to follow in the game that is "getting a fair contract".

What rules does Jerry have to follow at SKW? Ultimately, just his own.



Beware the override on the 70/bigger aircraft. You only get that rate when your flying the plane, right? What about everything else? DH, cancel, training, vacation, all those other credits are paid at the lower rate, right?

ASA had an override years ago on the ATR and it was not good, so we changed it in the current contract.

 

[airtime42]

The Scrubs at Skyworst dont care about the override. Most of them have only been out of instructing for six months. It's not about how much money they are making now, it is about how their pay will double in another six months when they upgrade. SAD!!

Funny thing is that JA is just padding the ballot box by hiring all these new scurbs. 60 a months where is the growth coming from to sustain that? The scrubs will vote alpa down and then all these new hires will hit the street with the promise that when they get called back in two years they will then upgrade in another 4 years.

Chase the Upgrade guys!!!! If you are chasing it you have already missed it just watch.

Let it Rain

 

[BigLebowski]

The Scrubs at Skyworst dont care about the override. Most of them have only been out of instructing for six months. It's not about how much money they are making now, it is about how their pay will double in another six months when they upgrade. SAD!!

Funny thing is that JA is just padding the ballot box by hiring all these new scurbs. 60 a months where is the growth coming from to sustain that? The scrubs will vote alpa down and then all these new hires will hit the street with the promise that when they get called back in two years they will then upgrade in another 4 years.

Chase the Upgrade guys!!!! If you are chasing it you have already missed it just watch.

Let it Rain

Hey Sweetie...

Just to let you know I flew 135, flew for a regional, then came to SkyW.
Voted yes for the raise.
Tell good old Duane I said hi.

 

[jea]

Hey Sweetie...

Just to let you know I flew 135, flew for a regional, then came to SkyW.
Voted yes for the raise.
Tell good old Duane I said hi.

I did the same, 135, other regional vote.... ive got friends who have been on at other regionals for over 6 years coming to Skywest for quality of life and a pay raise... i love alpa ha ha ha ha what a joke

 

[Bluto]

What rules does Jerry have to follow at SKW? Ultimately, just his own.

Beware the override on the 70/bigger aircraft. You only get that rate when your flying the plane, right? What about everything else? DH, cancel, training, vacation, all those other credits are paid at the lower rate, right?

Exactly right. You are only paid the override for hours you actually fly the larger airplane (even differences training for the larger aircraft is paid at the new 50-seat rate.)

 

[SSDD]

Voted No!

 

[Andy Neill]

Any predictions?

Nothing for the bro
14 cents/ hr. raise for newhires
current rates for the 50+ 1%
5% for actual block on the 70
the 90 will be paid the same as the 70....
....no 18 duty day max

Minor point here. NO ONE has an 18 duty day max in scheduled 121 ops...it's NOT LEGAL. Anything over 16 hours means you don't have minimum rest (8 hours) in the last 24.

At SkyWest, you will not be scheduled for more than 14 and any unscheduled day over 15 is with crew consent only (per Crew Policy Manual).

 

[Lazy8]

I'm so sick of this SkyWest bashing. It's real sad that you hate your current regional so much that you have to cherry pick misdirected and/or incorrect assumptions about the industry's best. If you guys are so smart why don't you go out and start your own airline? I'd love to see what you pay. If you're not willing to do that then stop your crying.

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