Offline Jumpseaters

[1973Arrow]

So when did offline jumpseaters stop checking in at the cockpit?

 

[BoilerUP]

There's a story there...do tell...

 

[Mr Wu]

1. Sure they were jumpseating?

2. Did they have a backpack, spiky hair, or an iPod?

3. Did they work for Mesa?













Just getting it out of the way early........

 

[relief tube]

he said they were "offline" so that means they should have said hi.

Had this same thing the other month. Asked the FA to ask him to come up front. He acted a little shy, I didn't directly ask him why he didnt stop up, I just told him "we always like to talk to our JSers."

I bet scab-types try to do this all the time.

 

[1973Arrow]

We flew PHL to ATL this past weekend. I saw the jumpseater filling out the card at the podium, but didn't have a chance to talk to the guy. I was the last one one the aircraft, because my inbound flight was late. I asked the capt. if he saw or talked with a jumpseater, "nope." We never saw the guy get on the plane because we were running a bit behind, so watching people board wasn't a priority. I get off the plane in ATL to do the walk arround. This guy was standing there in the bridge waiting for is gate checked back. I was like "WTF" and he was "oh, yea...thanks for the ride..." The company ID hanging arround his neck was a give away on who he worked for. High five there "Acey" for comming by the cockpit, NOT!

 

[stickler]

Ok, we all have to commute, get over it!

And, no I dont work for the "scab" airlines you speak of I'm just disgusted of the 8th grade antics that we all, including myself, do when it comes to the competition. We all make dog ******************** for wages so the least we can do is stick together and quit bitchin so much about petty ********************.
Cheers!

 

[Wankel7]

Lol Flamebait! ^^^

 

[TheRaven]

So when did offline jumpseaters stop checking in at the cockpit?

I would never dream of taking a seat in the back without ASKING if the Captain would allow me to jumpseat. I have talked to the FO if the CA isn't around and then said thanks after the flight.

Not too long ago I had an IPOD wearing backpack toting guy poke his head in the cockpit and say "Hey guys, Im catching a ride with you...they gave me seat 12C"............I responded that I didn't think I heard him right....did you mean to say "Hi guys, I'm Joe Schmoe with flying Z airlines, hoping I could catch a ride with you today". The guy looked at me and said "they gave me a seat" to which i replied "I'll bet I can get it revoked....it's a privelege, not a right, so it's nice to be polite and ask if its ok instead of telling me how it's gonna be on my plane" I wasn't shocked when the guy didn't say thanks after the flight.

I don't think I would ever deny a guy a ride to/from work if it was within my power, but this guy came close.

 

[VABB]

Why are all off-line jumpseaters rude to pilots?

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

maybe the senior guys or the represenation isn't teaching the newbies properly...

 

[IdRtherBsailing]

To say that I always ask is an understatment. I will sometimes stay and help them clean the airplane afterwords. Also, I have my cert, medical, ID, and JS Form at the ready. In the past with Yo Nited I was always asked for all my credentials, In return every mainline guy who asked to catch a ride on our little RJ just came up with his ID. I have refined it down to "Heres all my Shiznit, please please please let me ride, and Thank you, Thank you, Thank you."

Just wondering, the one in question was'nt a wholy owned where he may have need the JS but turned out to have a seat in the back was he?

 

[ground stop]

not that hard to stick your head in the cockpit, with fa's permission if he/she is standing there, and say "capt? hi, joe smith, i work for freedom airlines, was wondering if i could catch a ride to btv today?" all while holding your id out. 9 out of 10 times the capt takes your id, shakes your hand and says "no problem." if the fo is not busy shake his/her hand as well and say "hi, how are you?" if they small talk, then you respond accordingly. no small talk, "i'll get out of your hair, thanks again." then say hi to the fa and say thanks to any and all of the crew that you see when you exit the plane. takes less than 30 secs and they probably won't remember you were there. but if you're a jerk or don't say hi or thanks, they will remember that. doesn't matter if its your airline or not.

 

[Espalda Mojado]

The best way to avoid all of this is to ask the ramper to catch a ride in the baggage compartment or one of the wheel wells.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

We flew PHL to ATL this past weekend. I saw the jumpseater filling out the card at the podium, but didn't have a chance to talk to the guy. I was the last one one the aircraft, because my inbound flight was late. I asked the capt. if he saw or talked with a jumpseater, "nope." We never saw the guy get on the plane because we were running a bit behind, so watching people board wasn't a priority. I get off the plane in ATL to do the walk arround. This guy was standing there in the bridge waiting for is gate checked back. I was like "WTF" and he was "oh, yea...thanks for the ride..." The company ID hanging arround his neck was a give away on who he worked for. High five there "Acey" for comming by the cockpit, NOT!

That actually does sound like a nonrev or deadhead. When I'm nonrevving or deadheading I'll just say hi and thanks if it's not too out of the way for both parties.



On the other hand. I had a top notch Acey CRJ-700 commander the other day... I walked up front with all the usual stuff out and asked him if he minded if I could catch a ride and that I would be in the back.

His reply: "I possibly do mind, I don't think we can carry any jumpseaters, who are you with again?"

"Pinnacle... but there's 10 open seats... I won't need to be in the..."(CA jumps out of his seat, pushes by me, and picks up like 5 carryon bags and dissappears)

... cue awkward conversation with the FO. "Boy... this sure is a cleaner cockpit than the 200... and you have a printer...snazzy."

Captain comes back in, asks me a third time who I'm with and asks me why I need to ride up front.

"I don't... I've got seat 8C..."


Long story short... I wish I could have seen the confused look on my face as I left the cockpit. It was actually the first on-time ASA flight I've been on in memory...

 

[80for80]

So when did offline jumpseaters stop checking in at the cockpit?

Mainline pilots don't have to check in at the cockpit since it's a former mainline route you are flying.

 

[Stuka Luva]

Mainline pilots don't have to check in at the cockpit since it's a former mainline route you are flying.

*yawn*




:laugh:

 

[Smarta$$]

Mainline pilots don't have to check in at the cockpit since it's a former mainline route you are flying.

Then why do mainline pilots vote to give up that route?

 

[ASARJMan]

Captain comes back in, asks me a third time who I'm with and asks me why I need to ride up front.

"I don't... I've got seat 8C..."


Long story short... I wish I could have seen the confused look on my face as I left the cockpit. It was actually the first on-time ASA flight I've been on in memory...

Hey that sound like that ole crazy JA, former CP and MEC Chair, retires soon! lol

VOTED IN FAVOR!

 

[CrownandCoke]

I think that new pilots think that jumpseating is a "right". That as long as the gate agent accepts the jumpseat form and brings up your little picture on the computer that suddenly you are "good to go". I always introduce myself to the crew, and if the gate agent doesn't tell me to go down and get it signed, I suggest to them that I go down there and talk to the crew. I think denying someone the jumpseat (unless they work for Mesa) is a kick in the balls move, but on the other hand, it's not my choice to make.

True story. My gf at the time and myself were trying to jumpseat from FLL to ATL on AirTran. The agent said the flight was full, but go talk to the captain anyway. Told him the situation, he came up to the gate agent and told her "get these two people on the airplane". Rode first class up to ATL. Classy pilot.

Bottom line is, introduce yourself to the crew. It's not that hard!

 

[lookin4better]

agreed jumpseating is a PRIVLEDGE not a RIGHT....its not about attitude or 'getting over an ego' the jumpseat( OFFLINE) is always to be ASKED for the seat, weather in the back or the front.

Its NOT about " we all have to commute, get over your ego " once again, its a priveldge from pilots to pilots....ask ask ask

I dont so much blame the 'new' or 'young' pilots.....maybe no one ever told them ' how to' excercise professional courtesy.....alot of them dont knwo any better, just politly let them know the proper way to do things.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

Jumpseating is a right...but it is long standing tradition of courtesy and mutual professionalism. That is where guys screw up.

 

[Way2Broke]

That as long as the gate agent accepts the jumpseat form and brings up your little picture on the computer that suddenly you are "good to go".

What "lil picture" are you talking about.

 

[Av8rPHX]

CASS photo.

 

[Hypoxik]

I keep hearing offline, but dont you always ask even when its your own company. I wouldn't dream of jumpseating on one of my own without talking to the Big guy.

Oh by the way Ground Stop. There actually is a Joe Smith that works for Mesa on the Freedom side.

 

[suupah]

Mainline pilots don't have to check in at the cockpit since it's a former mainline route you are flying.

I had one not come up once. the FA told us he worked for gojets. I wondered how many jumpseat rides he had been denied in the past. how funny.

serious question tho, is it customary to be the last passenger off a plane if you are jumpseating. I always ask the cpt for a ride and say thanks to the flight attendant and flight deck crew as i leave but I ussually don't wait to be the last one off.

 

[Wankel7]

I really like to be the last one off the plane. Just feels like the right thing to do. And sometimes I have no choice because I was the last person on the plane and my bags are stuffed in the back and I am up front.

However, if I am in a hurry to make a tight connection I will get off with the rest. I am sure if you have a sense of urgency about you they will understand. What good is the ride if you can't make your connection?