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AWACO

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Latest word from the company suggest there may be no new classes until 2007! Company says they will interview the rest of the year but may not have any actual classes. Here come the traditional LOOOOOOONG Air Wis upgrades. Of course there are over 300 ac worth of bids out there now if you are a kool-aid drinker, personally the kool-aid gives me a stomach ache.

Im telling you go to CHQ if you feel you must work for a regional.
 
AWACO said:
Latest word from the company suggest there may be no new classes until 2007! Company says they will interview the rest of the year but may not have any actual classes. Here come the traditional LOOOOOOONG Air Wis upgrades. Of course there are over 300 ac worth of bids out there now if you are a kool-aid drinker, personally the kool-aid gives me a stomach ache.

Im telling you go to CHQ if you feel you must work for a regional.
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Bummer
 
Until non of the RFP's are awarded to AWAC...in which case the company ranks begin to empty once again.
 
AWACO said:
Latest word from the company suggest there may be no new classes until 2007! Company says they will interview the rest of the year but may not have any actual classes. Here come the traditional LOOOOOOONG Air Wis upgrades. Of course there are over 300 ac worth of bids out there now if you are a kool-aid drinker, personally the kool-aid gives me a stomach ache.

Im telling you go to CHQ if you feel you must work for a regional.
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O NO you poor baby. No classes until 2007. Gosh, guess this means the 2006 Riddle/Predue/ND or whatever grads will have to wait a year maybe 2 or 3 until they can get to the left seat. Darn the hardship. This terrible terrible world.
 
AWACO said:
Latest word from the company suggest there may be no new classes until 2007! Company says they will interview the rest of the year but may not have any actual classes. Here come the traditional LOOOOOOONG Air Wis upgrades.
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Holy Crap!!!! Two months of possibly having no classes!!! And over the holidays too! Wow that will really put a wrench in everything. And everyone here thought they were on the fast track considering we haven't increased our fleet size in over 3 years and in fact have shrunk by 18 a/c in the last 12 months. Did you really come to AWAC thinking you were going to upgrade at anything less than 3 years?

AWACO said:
Im telling you go to CHQ if you feel you must work for a regional.
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Great career advice....Number 1600 out of 1600 or 800 out of 800.
For a new hire the smaller pilot group equals less airframes/resignations to get them in the left seat. They way I see it if someone were to get hired at both right now it would probably take the same amount of time...might as well get paid more while your in the right seat. Sure CHQ has alot of a/c coming...but they have a pretty big pile to climb as well, will it be enough to get you your upgrade in two years...I'd doubt it.
 
AWACO said:
Latest word from the company suggest there may be no new classes until 2007! Company says they will interview the rest of the year but may not have any actual classes. Here come the traditional LOOOOOOONG Air Wis upgrades. Of course there are over 300 ac worth of bids out there now if you are a kool-aid drinker, personally the kool-aid gives me a stomach ache.

Im telling you go to CHQ if you feel you must work for a regional.
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And your supprised that they aren't going to have classes over that time period? You need to go back and re-read that e-mail. It's very not commitial to a class beyond the 30Oct. If things keep moving the way they are, they will keep hiring the 10-15 a month, like they've been doing for a while now.
Go to CHQ? If things are that bad here, why haven't you sent them your application?
 
THE SKY IS FALLING! OMFG NO NEWHIRE CLASSES UNTIL JANUARY!

Most CAs I've flown with upgraded (or could have) between 3-3.5 years. Yeah, thats a looooooooooong upgrade:rolleyes: No wonder you were banned from the forum...

With 12-20 captains leaving every month, hiring will continue, even if it takes a 2 month break over the holidays. If we get Midwest flying hiring will be for growth, if not it will be because of rapid attrition as people lose faith in mgmt.
 
All this means is that the guys on the bottom of the list might get a little boned on ready reserve for the next couple months... we are still loosing 20 captains a month, and during the last 2 months I have not flown with a single captain that does not have his or her stuff in to the majors. Also, with frontier starting to hire again and Southwest hiring as many as they are, it would not suprise me to see addition classes before the end of the year, despite the INTERNAL company memo. If we get midwest flying, there is no way they cannot hire, unless they want this place to feel like it did last year this time, which was no fun for anyone... including management.
 
BoilerUP said:
With 12-20 captains leaving every month, hiring will continue, even if it takes a 2 month break over the holidays.
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We aren't losing that many a month. Evidently, according to a domicile manager, they are averaging single digit resignations over the past several months.
 
Wasn't AWACO from ACA/Indy? He must have meant this tongue in cheek as a 2 month delay of classes is nothing. Maybe we all need a sense of humor...? Mongo, we definitely are in the double digits per month in captains leaving. I had 13 people senior to me leave this month alone and I am well over halfway up the list.
 
BoilerUP said:
THE SKY IS FALLING! OMFG NO NEWHIRE CLASSES UNTIL JANUARY!

Most CAs I've flown with upgraded (or could have) between 3-3.5 years. Yeah, thats a looooooooooong upgrade:rolleyes: No wonder you were banned from the forum...

With 12-20 captains leaving every month, hiring will continue, even if it takes a 2 month break over the holidays. If we get Midwest flying hiring will be for growth, if not it will be because of rapid attrition as people lose faith in mgmt.
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I posted this to help ease the stress of those people who have interviewed in the near past for a job at awac. Yes I know of a few myself. Dont you remember how stressfull it was waiting for a call from your 1st FO job? Now they know they can at least relax untill the start of next year.

As far as attrition your and my perspective differ, sorry. Yes those junior cpts you have been flying with did upgrade at the 3yr tick. They were upper 1/2 FO list when the big moves took place so they benifited from the short period of super high attrition rates. As willy stands right now I dont see lots of movement. Many people have moved to the east coast and many have just began to accept thier commutes for what they are. Thiings have slowed down, face it. I can tell you in the past 12 month period I have moved about 100-125 slots, for a newhire today that would take about 4 years roughly to upgrade. Is that a LOOOOONG upgrade, not really but it isnt fast compared to some.

FYI I was never banned from the Airwilly forum, not sure why you think I was? I just choose not to use that website for my aviation humor of the day it too saturated with air wis people :)
 
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AWACoff said:
Wasn't AWACO from ACA/Indy? He must have meant this tongue in cheek as a 2 month delay of classes is nothing. Maybe we all need a sense of humor...? Mongo, we definitely are in the double digits per month in captains leaving. I had 13 people senior to me leave this month alone and I am well over halfway up the list.
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Then I was given bad info. Oops. Not the first time, likely not the last either. Here's to increased seniority.
 
When I was hired at AWAC I was told 2 1/2 to 3 years to upgrade. Either way will be mass movement. I we get the Midwest flying, we will need to hire to cover that flying. I we don't get it, you'll see a mass exodus as many won't stay citing the east coast commute and schedules. It's pretty sad to walk into the crewroom at 5AM and see the floors littered with air matresses and people sleeping on them as well.
 
Kenny said:
If it's only for us why post the address here??? Not the brightest move.
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Because you still can't get on and see anything without a login name. So anybody outside of AWAC can go there all they want, but they'll never be able to see anything at all.
 

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