blackwater

[pilotyip]

Military flying

Spooky, I am sure my next-door neighbor and his crew felt the same way when they were shot down and killed in a P-3 on April 1st, 1968 while flying a Market Time Mission. BTW the Blackwater is white world company who have a web site. I know a pilot who when to work for them last year, a retired Army pilot.

 

[The_Russian]

Been there and done that.

I've been there and done that more.

Nu-uh!

Yuh-huh!

I know more secret things than you!

I'm classified top secret times ten, no touchies!

Why can't I play in the treehouse?

 

[Oh-ryan]

I feel dumber for having just read through an anatomy measuring contest between individuals trying to argue who knows more about classified subjects.

Been there and done that.

I've been there and done that more.

Nu-uh!

Yuh-huh!

I know more secret things than you!

I'm classified top secret times ten, no touchies!

Funny thing is, folks who are privy and who do hold the clearance(s) aren't dumb enough to discuss it here, or to argue who knows more (or less).

I know something you don't know but I can't tell you because I'd have to kill your children and sell what's left into slavery in a Ugandan doughnut shop, so don't tell anybody about my secret clearance and classified background, evenif they are listening in on this semi-public forum, okay?

Crikey guys. Grow some professionalism.

avbug,
I think I too am dumber for reading your post. A post from a guy who complains about everyone and their brother tossing in their two cents and then proceeds to do the exact same thing. Thanks for the your contribution and the hypocrisy. Now please return to your throne your highness.

 

[scarface]

Was that a P-3 shot down or a C-121(Connie)? Referring to 1968 that is.
What is white world?
I take it Blackwater has donned Air America's mantle. Whoever has the balls to go take on those kind of missions is deserving of respect.

 

[pilotyip]

scareface, the C-121 was shot down by the Korean's in Apr of 69, the P-3B belonged to VP-26 out of Brunswick, Maine and it went down April 1, 1968. White world is real, no undercover, nothing hidden, Blackwater may do some things they don't talk about, but the company is real.

 

[Spooky 2]

Spooky, I am sure my next-door neighbor and his crew felt the same way when they were shot down and killed in a P-3 on April 1st, 1968 while flying a Market Time Mission. BTW the Blackwater is white world company who have a web site. I know a pilot who when to work for them last year, a retired Army pilot.

I'm slighty familiar with the story and as I recall the AC got the Medal of Honor for it. I do not recall them being shot down so maybe I'm thinking of another P3 story. In any case, nice job and he and his crew have all my respect.

Guys, I guess I just got off on the wrong foot here. It was either insulting you, you mothers, or kicking the cat. The damn cat scrathes and hisses at me when I do that, so I took you on instead. My most sincere apologies as no harm was intended. It was kind of fun though for awhile. My real interest in the Blackwater Boeing was strictly from a maintenance point of view.

 

[Fins Up]

Guys, I guess I just got off on the wrong foot here. It was either insulting you, you mothers, or kicking the cat. The dang cat scrathes and hisses at me when I do that, so I took you on instead. My most sincere apologies as no harm was intended. It was kind of fun though for awhile. My real interest in the Blackwater Boeing was strictly from a maintenance point of view.

If you need another cat to kick, you can have mine. I keep trying to get the dogs to eat him but it doesn't work.

Okay, all cleaned up from that. New plane, new day.

 

[Oh-ryan]

I'm slighty familiar with the story and as I recall the AC got the Medal of Honor for it. I do not recall them being shot down so maybe I'm thinking of another P3 story. In any case, nice job and he and his crew have all my respect.

Guys, I guess I just got off on the wrong foot here. It was either insulting you, you mothers, or kicking the cat. The dang cat scrathes and hisses at me when I do that, so I took you on instead. My most sincere apologies as no harm was intended. It was kind of fun though for awhile. My real interest in the Blackwater Boeing was strictly from a maintenance point of view.

No hard feelings. You can kiss my sister now.

 

[HarryShadow]

I'm slighty familiar with the story and as I recall the AC got the Medal of Honor for it. I do not recall them being shot down so maybe I'm thinking of another P3 story. In any case, nice job and he and his crew have all my respect.

Guys, I guess I just got off on the wrong foot here. It was either insulting you, you mothers, or kicking the cat. The dang cat scrathes and hisses at me when I do that, so I took you on instead. My most sincere apologies as no harm was intended. It was kind of fun though for awhile. My real interest in the Blackwater Boeing was strictly from a maintenance point of view.

Well done...

 

[Andy]

Do you know what they (Blackwater) are planning to do, or already doing with the B767-200ER they bought about a year ago? I know it's top secret. I think I know but just was trying to confirm.

Well, since you've calmed down- I applied for a flying job at Blackwater a while back. The HR person made it sound like there was nothing secret about the 767 ops. IIRC, she told me that it was used for employee movements and charter ops; nothing 'interesting.' I was interested in flying the CASA for them; that sounds like an adrenaline rush.

While we're at it... Anyone know what's up at the Y-12 nuclear weapons plant at Oak Ridge, specifically the storage of nuclear weapons triggers and timers, and the quantity of enriched uranium and Pu-239 on site? I know it's top secret. I think I know but just was trying to confirm.

I have a CNWDI clearance and the answer to all of those questions is in a room down the hallway from me. I have absolutely zero curiosity on the subject. In fact, I've never been in the room. If I ever enter the room, I will have to purge my memory cells with massive quantities of cold liquid refreshments. :beer:

 

[stearmann4]

I was interested in flying the CASA for them; that sounds like an adrenaline rush.

A rush huh? I wonder how much of a rush the 4 CASA crew from BW were having as they sat around wounded at their crash sight in the Hindu Kush mountains for three days, eventually freezing to death because red tape and WX prevented their recovery.

A large majority of the the jobs that look like "Cool flying" really aren't Just as there is much suspect about "spooky" transports, when in reality, there really are just moving cargo. Spooks need logistics supplies and R&R too.

Lastly, a wise pilot told me once to stay clear of any organization that isn't backed by the flag. Business is business, and while you may get paid well for your services, never forget there's an endless of guys behind you waiting for you job when it's your turn to freeze in the mountains.

 

[fxbat]

sat around wounded at their crash sight in the Hindu Kush mountains for three days, eventually freezing to death because red tape and WX prevented their recovery.

Dam I didn’t know that was how it went down. I have a friend that flew the little bird for one rotation. Grabbed his cash and ran.

 

[Pistlpetet]

A rush huh? I wonder how much of a rush the 4 CASA crew from BW were having as they sat around wounded at their crash sight in the Hindu Kush mountains for three days, eventually freezing to death because red tape and WX prevented their recovery.
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Where did you get that bit of information? I believe it was a bit quicker then that.

There were two AD military guys (One Field Grade) who died on that aircraft. That would cut through any SAR red tape quickly.

 

[UHBlackhawk]

While we're at it... Anyone know what's up at the Y-12 nuclear weapons plant at Oak Ridge, specifically the storage of nuclear weapons triggers and timers, and the quantity of enriched uranium and Pu-239 on site? I know it's top secret. I think I know but just was trying to confirm.

I to is very interested in said information. Also, to please tell of security details, phone numbers of security details and there addresses? Do thye have children or loved ones? How do I find about there finances? Do have coordinates of location so we can see on Google Map? Be praised for such information.

 

[Andy]

A rush huh? I wonder how much of a rush the 4 CASA crew from BW were having as they sat around wounded at their crash sight in the Hindu Kush mountains for three days, eventually freezing to death because red tape and WX prevented their recovery.

A large majority of the the jobs that look like "Cool flying" really aren't Just as there is much suspect about "spooky" transports, when in reality, there really are just moving cargo. Spooks need logistics supplies and R&R too.

Lastly, a wise pilot told me once to stay clear of any organization that isn't backed by the flag. Business is business, and while you may get paid well for your services, never forget there's an endless of guys behind you waiting for you job when it's your turn to freeze in the mountains.

Yeah, that type of flying sounds like a rush to me. It has a bit more of an edge to it than the LGA expressway visual to Rwy 31 or even the dreaded LAX ILS 25L.

Here's an account of the accident: http://www.newtimesbpb.com/Issues/2005-10-27/news/news.html

 

[pilotyip]

Blackwater is advertizing for pilots on climbto350 or jsfirm, can't remember exactlly right now, CASA pilots I believe is what they are looking for.

 

[Steve]

Any idea what kind of background the killed blackwater pilots had? I'm guessing they may be prior military?

 

[Andy]

Any idea what kind of background the killed blackwater pilots had? I'm guessing they may be prior military?

I don't think that either had military background. This article talks about them a bit more; never mentioned military service:
http://www.defendamerica.mil/articles/Dec2004/a120604e.html

 

[avbug]

JSFirm presently has the ads up, and they're looking for Dash 8 pilots and a Caravan pilot.

I don't think that either had military background. This article talks about them a bit more; never mentioned military service:

The article states that Melvin Rowe was "a former UH-60 crew chief with the 101st Infantry."

 

[bama*pilot]

do they hire people that are non military?