Your thoughts on the future of American and US Airways

[kwick]

Book? I saw it up close and personal. Lorenzo was destructive, but USAPA made it their mission to destroy the lives of fellow pilots. Try losing a home or marriage from the financial and emotional stress of defending yourself against lawsuits filed by the union you are forced to support and then come soft pedal USAPA's impact on this board.

Lorenzo used the opportunity provided by deregulation and unprofitable airlines to fuel his juggernaut. USAPA used the opportunity of gullible pilots and a leadership vacuum to subject not only their own pilots to the unnecessarily low pay and benefits of LOA93, but all pilots whose contract negotiations were affected by the influence of LOA93 on market rates. Remember, the same idiots who wanted to play with their Jimmy Hoffa puppets and pretend to be union leaders set the stage for LOA93 and did nothing to get rid of it when they ginned up USAPA. A little maturity would have gone a long way.



The most dismal point though has to be that it took a legal system to remove Frank Lorenzo from the front lines of the airline business. USAPA remains in power due to 3500 pilots who don't give a damn about anyone but themselves (ironically they don't really care about themselves or they would wake up and realize Bradfords sham really gained them nothing but a permanent reputation).

From your "perspective" in the Peanut Gallery it's clear you have little insight into either battle.

After you won the lottery, maybe you
should have compromised a little and
helped come up with a more fair and
workable SLI.

 

[jayme]

Percentile by category is winning the lottery?

 

[sean67]

Wow....
I generate one post on FI thinking that there would not be any east vs west hijacking... Wrong!

 

[Bringupthebird]

After you won the lottery, maybe you
should have compromised a little and
helped come up with a more fair and
workable SLI.

Explain.

How many TA's were voted down by the pilot group? Did Cleary protect you from yourself? Did he protect himself from you?

Exactly how many people would there have been between you and an upgrade at the PID vs the number between you and upgrade with the NIC on the same date?

Now explain how this is worth the pay sacrifice the east has caused so many to suffer.

Please, there are folks who want to understand this as well as you do.

 

[Turtle21]

Explain...

Exactly how many ..?

Now explain ...

Please,....

Yawn. Maybe later. Tootaloo.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Yawn. Maybe later. Tootaloo.

Translation: "Gee, I've never actually looked at the Nic list myself, but USAPA said..."

 

[waveflyer]

Explain.

How many TA's were voted down by the pilot group? Did Cleary protect you from yourself? Did he protect himself from you?

Exactly how many people would there have been between you and an upgrade at the PID vs the number between you and upgrade with the NIC on the same date?

Now explain how this is worth the pay sacrifice the east has caused so many to suffer.

Please, there are folks who want to understand this as well as you do.

These are very good questions actually- and in my experience, most east pilots don't know the answer, which is very sad indeed

 

[Turtle21]

Translation: "Gee, I've never actually looked at the Nic list myself, but USAPA said..."

If believe your translation is accurate, and that is sufficient for you, suit your self. Tootaloo.

 

[waveflyer]

If believe your translation is accurate, and that is sufficient for you, suit your self. Tootaloo.

Translation, you've never given the Nic list more than an emotional look

And I'm sure that bird wished he was tethered to your opinion of the Nic, but as it stands, your understanding and opinion of the SLI very much affects his future and affects the industry as a whole since you've decided to take this stand on the worst contract I've seen at a legacy in 20 years

 

[pave driver]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/28/us-american-usairways-justice-idUSBRE97R1BH20130828