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I laugh every time I read one of these "sky is falling" threads regarding foreign pilots.

Like an earlier poster, I work for a company that does ab-initio training and, due to recent events, will soon be taking pilots from zero time through their type rating in just a little over 250 hours.

All of these kids (I feel old) paid roughtly ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY THOUSAND dollars for this training (seen by many as some of the best in Europe).

They are appalled at US pilot wages and very, I mean VERY few would ever consider working here for the wages paid here; even if they found themselves in dire straights. They have no desire to get beat around in our system for ten years before making a reasonable salary and then only to still be a part of work rules that are generally subpar to those of their home country while being away from home.

These kids end up right seat on A320s or 737s with 250 hours.....by the time they have the experience to be competetive for a US job in that type of equipment, they'd be making a salary that they just wouldn't be able to replace working for a US carrier....even if they were to stay there for ten or fifteen years.

Seriously, does ANYONE on here know ANY foreign pilot that would be competetive for a major who is just itching for this rule to change? I likely know far more European pilots than the vast majority on this board and I have to reply in the negative. I dont know of even ONE person that would give up his/her present postion or situation to come and work here.

In short, the US has the toughest system and some of the lowest pay vs. experience of almost any country in the world for pilots.

Foreign pilots don't want to work here.
 
I laugh every time I read one of these "sky is falling" threads regarding foreign pilots.

Like an earlier poster, I work for a company that does ab-initio training and, due to recent events, will soon be taking pilots from zero time through their type rating in just a little over 250 hours.

All of these kids (I feel old) paid roughtly ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY THOUSAND dollars for this training (seen by many as some of the best in Europe).

They are appalled at US pilot wages and very, I mean VERY few would ever consider working here for the wages paid here; even if they found themselves in dire straights. They have no desire to get beat around in our system for ten years before making a reasonable salary and then only to still be a part of work rules that are generally subpar to those of their home country while being away from home.

These kids end up right seat on A320s or 737s with 250 hours.....by the time they have the experience to be competetive for a US job in that type of equipment, they'd be making a salary that they just wouldn't be able to replace working for a US carrier....even if they were to stay there for ten or fifteen years.

Seriously, does ANYONE on here know ANY foreign pilot that would be competetive for a major who is just itching for this rule to change? I likely know far more European pilots than the vast majority on this board and I have to reply in the negative. I dont know of even ONE person that would give up his/her present postion or situation to come and work here.

In short, the US has the toughest system and some of the lowest pay vs. experience of almost any country in the world for pilots.

Foreign pilots don't want to work here.

Nice post.

Maybe there will be opportunities for us in the future. Most of us don't have A plans anymore, there might be a little "free agency" in that. I don't feel tied to my carrier anymore, really. We've got a shocking number of first year pilots leaving (this is CAL we're talking about), there might be a chance for a lot of us US pilots to participate in the global pilot need as well.
 

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