Yet ANOTHER reason our FFDO's need conceal carry!

[ultrarunner]

NEW YORK (AP) - Authorities say a JetBlue pilot lost his government-issued handgun after a passenger on another flight mistakenly picked up his carry-on luggage.

An official familiar with the incident tells The Associated Press that the pilot was waiting at Kennedy Airport for his New York to Pittsburgh flight on Thursday morning when a passenger picked up the bag. Inside was a gun that the Transportation Security Administration had given him as part of a program that trains pilots to fight off hijackers.

The passenger realized she was carrying too many bags and notified a flight attendant.

The official was unauthorized to speak publicly about the incident and spoke on condition of anonymity to the AP.

The Transportation Security Administration was investigating. JetBlue says it's cooperating with the investigation.

 

[Lake Alice]

You cannot defend this no matter how hard you try.

 

[ultrarunner]

You cannot defend this no matter how hard you try.

No, you cannot. But what this incident, along with a few others, does is to underscore a terribly implemented plan. And the TSA really needs to re-think the entire program, and how it is set up.

You deputize these folks, then make 'em carry around their handgun in a locked box....For christ sake!

There is no argument what-so-ever against NOT having these FFDO's issued a federal conceal carry permit.

 

[Mr Wu]

Maybe the guy should have had the NDB in his possession and control at all times like he's supposed to do.

 

[Draginass]

The FFDO program violates every rule of CC I know of. The stupid procedures that they mandate are the primary cause of the incidents that I know of so far. Procedure needs to be simple and effective. The current ones are neither.

The TSA and airlines don't want FFDOs in the first place and they are doing whatever they can to make it fail and make it look like the pilots' fault.

 

[filejw]

The FFDO program violates every rule of CC I know of. The stupid procedures that they mandate are the primary cause of the incidents that I know of so far. Procedure needs to be simple and effective. The current ones are neither.

The TSA and airlines don't want FFDOs in the first place and they are doing whatever they can to make it fail and make it look like the pilots' fault.

Does that include the guy that shot a hole in his cockpit wall ? We all new the rules when we signed up, what is needed is people who follow them as required.

 

[SKC]

...and make it look like the pilots' fault.

HELLO, it WAS the pilot's fault. The TSA didn't make him do that. The FAA didn't make him do that. The airline didn't make him do that. The pilot knew the rules that were in place at the time and he chose to be careless with his firearm.

If you drive down a highway that you KNOW has a speed limit of 70 mph. You choose to drive 90 and get stopped by a patrolman. You can't, at that point, claim that the speed limit should be 90. You knew the rules, and broke them.

 

[Draginass]

Rules that make the chance of an accidental discharge and loss of control much more likely are stupid. That's the biggest reason I won't do it.

 

[StarChecker]

The FFDO SOP absolutely sets you up to fail. It is the most half-assed program I've ever seen. Either do it right (weapon carried on duty) or don't do it it all. Absolutely absurd.

 

[clr4theapch]

Just a note of caution: this thread was started on another section about this incident.. right about here in that conversation security rules and hints at process and procedures were starting to be discussed.. this after I warned them as well. it did not stop, so the thread was closed...

Please continued to "generally" discuss but leave out the details that would violate the law and the TOS resulting in the same action my us..

thanks, clr4 Mod