Yeah we 'see' the commuter!

[Freebrd]

ASA on final, DAL being vectored for a visual last night. Everytime ATC referenced the RJ, DAL pilot responded, "we see the commuter", "we'll follow the commuter'.

Really, is this necessary? ASA pilots feel your pain, and we have no control over your management and their use of RJs. I busted my arse getting a DAL pilot the jump seat last month, and will continue to do so. I'm sure this is just one rotten apple in the bunch. Anyway, no big deal, just think comments like this help no one.

 

[ReportCanoa]

The answer is simple- don't go out of your way for them.

 

[AdlerDriver]

ASA on final, DAL being vectored for a visual last night. Everytime ATC referenced the RJ, DAL pilot responded, "we see the commuter", "we'll follow the commuter'.

Really, is this necessary? ASA pilots feel your pain, and we have no control over your management and their use of RJs. I busted my arse getting a DAL pilot the jump seat last month, and will continue to do so. I'm sure this is just one rotten apple in the bunch. Anyway, no big deal, just think comments like this help no one.

Lighten up Francis. Comments like what? You act like the word "commuter" is a 4-letter word.

 

[Freebrd]

Not upset here Adler. Just think comments such as those are unprofessional and uncalled for. ASA pilots (majority) support the Delta pilots. Was that you? lol

 

[Ty Webb]

I don't think it was Delta, I think it was a different carrier, with the call sign "Wind Check".

 

[TexaSWA]

Not upset here Adler. Just think comments such as those are unprofessional and uncalled for. ASA pilots (majority) support the Delta pilots. Was that you? lol

Huh? Is ASA not a commuter airline?

 

[180ToTheMarker]

I'm sure this is just one rotten apple in the bunch. Anyway, no big deal, just think comments like this help no one.

If its no big deal, then why is he a "rotten apple"?

Lighten up man...whats he supposed to say, "we see the enormously popular CRJ with comfortable two by two seating that flies at 41,000 feet at speeds of up to 530 mph"?

PS- that was for you senor F.C.

 

[FN FAL]

Not upset here Adler. Just think comments such as those are unprofessional and uncalled for. ASA pilots (majority) support the Delta pilots. Was that you? lol

My feeder caravan got called a "FedEx Thingie" by some knob given a taxi instruction in a NWA airbus. You kind of have to laugh at this type of act, because if life was so good upstream, why would they be making such unprofessional comments?

 

[mrnolmts]

Lighten up man...whats he supposed to say...?

How about "We'll follow the RJ"?... Or... "We'll follow ASA"?...
Mind you, I don't think "Commuter" is a four-letter word, but I *do* believe there are better choices out there. In my opinion, "Commuter" could be interpreted as "I'm better than you". Not saying it was meant that way...

 

[canyonblue]

Huh? Is ASA not a commuter airline?

Maybe in the 1980's people used that term. "Follow the RJ would have sufficed, it was an obvious jab"

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

It's very simple, "We have the traffic in sight".

 

[KeroseneSnorter]

Hmm, Up until a few years ago when commuter airlines started calling themselves regionals they were called....um....commuters

Just a term there fellas, you have quite an ego problem if you get all bent out of shape for a guy calling a light jet a commuter.

I mean come on, the RJ has been stretched and tweaked, but at heart it is still a Challenger business jet.

It is a reletive term. Depending where you are or what is in line behind you even a 767 can be considered a light twin!!

Just an observation from a former commuter driver(Atari Ferrari), light twin driver (737, fluff, football, trailing edge bug killer whatever), nearjet driver (Citation 500 speedbump series) now trash hauler(flying whale, aeronautical warehouse, Rubber dog doo transport device, cumulus alumunus, or any other number of names) Lighten up there fellas, they are all just airplanes, no reason to get bent out of shape......unless you use your airplane to compensate for other......lacking items!!

 

[ASADFW7]

I think the words are not the problem it is the associations, and those are personal. When you bring personal associations to words that are used in every day speech, those filters then when published publicly can have others paint the same words with the same associations. I personally think that if a fellow calls me a commuter, because that is how the airline started out as, then that is okay. I do not take it personally. Not every word transmitted on the radio needs to be detected on flight info.

 

[canyonblue]

I mean come on, the RJ has been stretched and tweaked, but at heart it is still a Challenger business jet.

But would you call-out an F16 by saying "got the little jet in sight"?

 

[KeroseneSnorter]

But would you call-out an F16 by saying "got the little jet in sight"?

If it will fit in the main cargo deck.....yes!!!!

Of which the F-16 falls in that catagory(would have to "tweak" the wings a bit to do it!!)

Only problem is the little buggers are so fast we can't catch up to them!!!!

 

[stonewall]

But would you call-out an F16 by saying "got the little jet in sight"?

If you can see the F-16, he can see you. If you can't see the F-16, you may be seconds from death.

 

[General Lee]

ASA on final, DAL being vectored for a visual last night. Everytime ATC referenced the RJ, DAL pilot responded, "we see the commuter", "we'll follow the commuter'.

Really, is this necessary? ASA pilots feel your pain, and we have no control over your management and their use of RJs. I busted my arse getting a DAL pilot the jump seat last month, and will continue to do so. I'm sure this is just one rotten apple in the bunch. Anyway, no big deal, just think comments like this help no one.

How did the Delta guy know the ASA pilots commuted? That is pretty smart. And, only the ex-Navy guys at Delta ask for windchecks. They WERE "Top Gunners", but now they can't land worth a krap in a xwind.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[AAflyer]

These are real serious issues we are discussing. We really do not know what was meant by it. If it came from an old captain about to retire I would take it in stride. He has never known different. If it is not the 757,767,777 it is just a commuter to him. Heck we had one of our 777s say he would follow the light twin (us, MD-80). I think we are all getting a little too sensitive.

I also don't want to hear;

Legacy pilot
Discount airline pilot guy
The big jet without a pension
Baby Bus
Mud Duck

I am getting upset just looking at the terms I have heard... I am going to watch Opra now, and then a good movie on Lifetime!!

AA

 

[stonewall]

How did the Delta guy know the ASA pilots commuted? That is pretty smart. And, only the ex-Navy guys at Delta ask for windchecks. They WERE "Top Gunners", but now they can't land worth a krap in a xwind.

Bye Bye--General Lee

Give 'em a break, General. Everyone knows that there are no crosswinds at military bases. In fact, at my Guard base (an Int'l airport), the crosswinds magically cease when a fighter rolls off the perch.

Besides, the Navy clowns spent half the time landing on aircraft carriers turned so it's all headwind. And we all know that's MUCH easier than planting a 767 into ATL with a 20kt xwind.

 

[TexaSWA]

Maybe in the 1980's people used that term. "Follow the RJ would have sufficed, it was an obvious jab"

Most people used the word "commuter" until at least the late 90s, when RJs started to show up. Some old guys are set in their ways and dont care to change terminology for absoutly no reason. I dont understand how this could be construed as a jab.

If the PC police are going to start auditing aviation terminology, I quit.

 

[starchkr]

What's wrong with "Baby Bus?" I had ATC call out a "Baby Bus" (their exact words)as traffic to me once and we responded "coochie coochie coo, Baby Bus in sight" and the Bus drivers got a kick out of it. Maybe it's the tone used when saying it all, but in instances such as this, usually people can find some of it humorous. Of course this was at 1230am out of Houston so there was not much traffic, so i am sure ATC was just trying to stay awake and have some fun himself.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

I'd rather be called a commuter.

It's more retro old school!

 

[Av8rPHX]

they could have always said "We'll follow the Regional Jet Provider" or the "SJP"

 

[WorldOnTime]

Wow.

I can't believe this thread exists.

"Someone called my plane a commuter....my pu$$y hurts."

 

[Brett Hull]

I mean come on, the RJ has been stretched and tweaked, but at heart it is still a Challenger business jet.

Yea, but the guys flying the business jet version are individually paid more than all three crewmembers on the streatched version combined.

 

[General Lee]

What's wrong with "Baby Bus?" I had ATC call out a "Baby Bus" (their exact words)as traffic to me once and we responded "coochie coochie coo, Baby Bus in sight" and the Bus drivers got a kick out of it. Maybe it's the tone used when saying it all, but in instances such as this, usually people can find some of it humorous. Of course this was at 1230am out of Houston so there was not much traffic, so i am sure ATC was just trying to stay awake and have some fun himself.

A "baby bus" or "mini bus" is an A318 or A319. A "bus" is an A320. A "heavy bus" is an A300, A310, A330, or A340. A "fat bus" is an A380. A 757 is a "sexy hotrod." There you go.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Chronic Jetlag]

smart a$$ comments

ASA on final, DAL being vectored for a visual last night. Everytime ATC referenced the RJ, DAL pilot responded, "we see the commuter", "we'll follow the commuter'.

Really, is this necessary? ASA pilots feel your pain, and we have no control over your management and their use of RJs. I busted my arse getting a DAL pilot the jump seat last month, and will continue to do so. I'm sure this is just one rotten apple in the bunch. Anyway, no big deal, just think comments like this help no one.

Fact is you'll never know the true intent of that guy on the radio. Maybe it was the FO working the radio and he's from the "commuters", or maybe it was the capt on the radio. It's been my experience humor is the best approach (tongue & cheek) Try and take it in stride and come back with "humor." Out of JFK one morning I heard ATC instructing Delta to follow Jetblue and Delta replied "we'll follow the low cost airline..." and Jetblue was quick to respond " understood, low cost to lead Delta" Have fun and go with it while you're in the air.

 

[ATRedneck]

[sarcasm on]

Regional, schmegional.

I'm sick of being called "White" by the HR types.

I demand to be called "European-American"!

[sarcasm off]

 

[320AV8R]

We get called "mini-bus" all the time.

We used to get called "bowling shoe".

I heard a bizjet pilot, who was told to follow a SW 737 reply....
" Roger, we'll follow the corn dog".

Ain't no thang,

320AV8R

 

[JetDriver2727]

I'm Surprised

Today I was taxiing to the gate at ORD when I heard the ground controller tell a United "guppy" to follow the "Replacement Jet" ahead and to his left. I think everyone involved was clear on the request......