XOJET Announces $25,000 "All In" Transcon

[NETFLIER]

hey x-rated,

dont look now but you just put yourself in the Jet Blue model. hope and wish on the warranty my fellow.

i have been flying the X for 5 years and I am certain my numbers, based on the avg transcon times, are more than accurate and even gave you the benefit of the doubt.

you may not have chartered yet but you will. you may not have bent some iron, buy you will. you may not have paid for a type rating but you will.

Look alive people.

lastly....


NEXT!!!!!!!!

 

[Number$Cruncher]

I do not care if you are selling hamburgers or flight time, any business that needs to "package" or coupon" or offer a lower price out there is hurting. Plain and simple. If the business is good, you do not make deals. The only reason XO Jet is making any package deal is because they need to drum up business and need to make a sale....thus need cash. When was the last time the Four Seasons Hotel made a deal...they don't. They do not have to. If your business model is solid and you have the customers to pull a profit, you do not need to make any "special offers". I hate to see a compalny like XO Jet having to lower the bar in the fractional industry. But, since NetJets has most of the customers in 5 year contracts, it may be the only way to drum up any business. Sad.

This is a great example of why pilots very often make very, very bad business people...

 

[bluepost]

From a NJA guy I wish you folks luck. I am always happy to see a company succeed that treats it employees well. Sounds like you folks are off to a great start!

 

[clydefastly]

From a NJA guy I wish you folks luck. I am always happy to see a company succeed that treats it employees well. Sounds like you folks are off to a great start!

Thanks for the kind words. I was begining to wonder what kind of people work at NJ.

 

[Whale Rider]

hey x-rated,

dont look now but you just put yourself in the Jet Blue model. hope and wish on the warranty my fellow.

i have been flying the X for 5 years and I am certain my numbers, based on the avg transcon times, are more than accurate and even gave you the benefit of the doubt.

you may not have chartered yet but you will. you may not have bent some iron, buy you will. you may not have paid for a type rating but you will.

Look alive people.

lastly....


NEXT!!!!!!!!

Wow, you poor guy. You need help sir.

 

[Whale Rider]

Well thank you for not burdening me with the details.

Your, welcome. Thanks for wishing us all kinds of good luck, then turning around and saying the above. yourself.

 

[t-bone]

From a NJA guy I wish you folks luck. I am always happy to see a company succeed that treats it employees well. Sounds like you folks are off to a great start!

Thank you.

 

[Jeff Helgeson]

The answers are in the article

Here are a few questions. Just asking. I know you dont make all the business decisions, but do the best you can. Thanks.

Are these fares good on a flight from Thermal, CA to Melbourne, FL?

If your closest plane is 800 miles away, is the fare still good?

Do these flights have to be booked days in advanced, or hours in advance?

Is this "news" just to get some ink?

Is business so slow that you need to do some cute advertising?

4000 destinations included in the fixed price and no repositioning fees answers your first two questions. The rest is just bad blood on your part. Information about a new innovative competitor seems to get you all hot and bothered. This forum should be about information, not emotion.

I thought the article was informative. XOJjet has secured a historic amount of financing from Wall Street. I would think information about their operation would be welcome on this forum.

If I were looking to fly corporate again, XO Jet would be high on my list of potential employers.

 

[skiandsurf]

I dont want to keep the sparring going back and forth, but lets just clarify a couple of facts.

1. Somebody said the company is only 2 yrs old. Then says that they worked there for 3 yrs. I know for fact that the company is more than 3 yrs old, maybe in a different name (JH was hired in 2004, and his buddy was CP for a while before that, so the company was not founded 2 yrs ago).

2. Someone says that it took NJs a long time to be profitable. Its hard to lay the ground work, but easy to ride the coattails of others.

3. XOJets original plan was to be a "sell-off carrier" for NJs. But when they tried to steal our owners, that relationship was severed.....by NJs.

4. On the XOJet website, they claim to be the largest C-X operator. Not sure how they can make that claim, when they operate 20 (?) and NJs operates 70(?).

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Now for speculation.

1. Business is slow, and they are trying to get some business.
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I know a few of those XO pilots, and wish them well. But lets try and keep the facts straight.

 

[skiandsurf]

If I were looking to fly corporate again, XO Jet would be high on my list of potential employers.

Again, lets keep the facts straight. XOJet is not a Corporate Flight Department. Its a Charter Operation.

Netjets, Flexjet, CitationShares=Fractional.

IBM, Caterpillar, Pepsi=Corporate.

XOJet, West Coast Charters, East Coast Charters= Charter.

Hope this helps.

 

[Jeff Helgeson]

It doesn't help

Again, lets keep the facts straight. XOJet is not a Corporate Flight Department. Its a Charter Operation.

Netjets, Flexjet, CitationShares=Fractional.

IBM, Caterpillar, Pepsi=Corporate.

XOJet, West Coast Charters, East Coast Charters= Charter.

Hope this helps.

All the above are corporate-type of flying, using corp/ jets. Most people on this board understand this.

The facts are you always have to have the last word. The answers to your initial post were in the article. You are just taking pot shots at a new competitor. I am glad I will never have to share a crew bus with you. (I am sure you will respond with the differences between a crew bus, limo, taxi, etc.).

Speculation: You are sitting at the computer at signature waiting for you fraction client.

 

[skiandsurf]

Speculation: You are sitting at the computer at signature waiting for you fraction client.

Again, fact vs speculation. Sitting in my office at the house watching the news. Been home since noon on saturday. Just got my kid off to school. Going to the dentist at 10am. Back to work on saturday.

 

[captain dad]

Your, welcome. Thanks for wishing us all kinds of good luck, then turning around and saying the above. yourself.

I asked you a simple question and you respond with ego and attitude. Do you assume I’m not intelligent enough to comprehend the intricacies of travel itineraries? How do you expect people to respond?

I find your “family comes along” policy for really long trips to the mid-east interesting and would like to know how that works. If there was "no need to explain it", I wouldn't have asked the question.

Every time I respond to one of your posts, I regret it. Why is that?

 

[flyipilot]

I was under the impression the $25,000 trans-con marketing campaign is to sell the convenience of a relatively flat, predictable rate...not necessarily as a true "special" discounted, reduced rate as some are referring to.

Don't forget XOJET did manage to drum up close to $2.6 billion in financing, i'm not a finance or investment major but that is pretty damn convincing that their business model is currently successful and has a bright future.

I am not sure you can say that the fact they drum up a lot of money means they have a clue what they are doing. Branson has suckered many banks into investing into Virgin America and they bleed cash daily. Banks are not the smartest investors..(as we all are feeling now).. and foreign investments are a huge gamble that may or may not pay off. In fact Skybus went to Asia to get a lot of investment cash and they plan on expanding with it...oh wait, I mean losing it. So, in my book going to get foriegn investors to pay for your expansion here at home means you probably can not get ANY investments from home, thus, foreigners can be easy to convinced that the american dream may still be alive. Maybe.

 

[Whale Rider]

I asked you a simple question and you respond with ego and attitude. Do you assume I’m not intelligent enough to comprehend the intricacies of travel itineraries? How do you expect people to respond?

I find your “family comes along” policy for really long trips to the mid-east interesting and would like to know how that works. If there was "no need to explain it", I wouldn't have asked the question.

Every time I respond to one of your posts, I regret it. Why is that?

Hey Dad,

If your question so simple, why can't you accept a simple answer? Everyone can see your "Good Cop/Bad Cop attitude". If you don't like my answers don't ask the questions.