XJT to furlough t-bags and ufo's

[littlebigman]

heard this from one of the training department instructors.
there goes our west coast bases thanks skyworst!

 

[Whydoitry]

Yes, the training dept. has always been a good source of information, ALMOST as good as FI.

 

[Nevets]

heard this from one of the training department instructors.
there goes our west coast bases thanks skyworst!

Even if this was true, how is that Skywest's fault. They don't own XJT (yet).

 

[bmpilot2003]

heard this from one of the training department instructors.
there goes our west coast bases thanks skyworst!

Your branded operation is bleeding from the heart! Whether Skywest Inc buy Xjet or not sounds like a furlough is inevitable.

 

[Skaff]

heard this from one of the training department instructors.
there goes our west coast bases thanks skyworst!

Nice first post. So are you Shineydiscoballs too?

 

[Caspian27]

Seriously, as others have said: Skywest has nothing to do with any furloughs ... since they have no ownership nor authority over ExJet.

 

[pilotlbs]

heard this from one of the training department instructors.
there goes our west coast bases thanks skyworst!

Damn skw pilots, how dare they furlough xjt pilots, and close those west coast bases.

 

[Nevets]

Damn skw pilots, how dare they furlough xjt pilots, and close those west coast bases.

While taking 29 of their aircraft and operating them with SKW pilots and offering furloughed XJT pilots preferential interviews at SKW and then having the ability to bid on the rest of the XJT flying and take those aircraft as well in 12 months.

 

[USCtrojan]

While taking 29 of their aircraft and operating them with SKW pilots and offering furloughed XJT pilots preferential interviews at SKW and then having the ability to bid on the rest of the XJT flying and take those aircraft as well in 12 months.

XJT did the same thing for ASA. Took our Base, then offered preferential interviews to those who got kicked out.

 

[RP170]

While taking 29 of their aircraft and operating them with SKW pilots and offering furloughed XJT pilots preferential interviews at SKW and then having the ability to bid on the rest of the XJT flying and take those aircraft as well in 12 months.

Sounds similar to the Midwest/Skyway/Skywest fiasco.

 

[Nevets]

XJT did the same thing for ASA. Took our Base, then offered preferential interviews to those who got kicked out.

I understood that ASA did NOT lose ANY aircraft out of that deal. Is that not correct? I know for sure that XJT did NOT take ANY of ASA's aircraft.

 

[duck_killer]

You guys are really reaching on this one. How is it SKWs fault your branded is going south?

 

[Crizz]

XJT did the same thing for ASA. Took our Base, then offered preferential interviews to those who got kicked out.

Most of which upgraded in less than a year - much sooner than they ever would have at ASA.

 

[sweptback]

I understood that ASA did NOT lose ANY aircraft out of that deal. Is that not correct? I know for sure that XJT did NOT take ANY of ASA's aircraft.

ASA lost 4 700s, ships 701, 702, 703, and 705 after SLC closed down. They have since been re-registered at SkyWest.

ASA didn't lose any aircraft after LAX closed, but at about the same time our block hours went down substantially. I don't fault the ExpressJet pilots since our management knew going into the LAX base that it would be a temporary thing (they just didn't communicate that to the pilots).

 

[Nevets]

ASA lost 4 700s, ships 701, 702, 703, and 705 after SLC closed down. They have since been re-registered at SkyWest.

ASA didn't lose any aircraft after LAX closed, but at about the same time our block hours went down substantially. I don't fault the ExpressJet pilots since our management knew going into the LAX base that it would be a temporary thing (they just didn't communicate that to the pilots).

Ok, USCTrojan just made it seem otherwise and that XJT was offering ASA pilots preferential interviews because of lose of aircraft due to XJT gettting the DAL LAX flying.

 

[Captain Overs]

While taking 29 of their aircraft and operating them with SKW pilots and offering furloughed XJT pilots preferential interviews at SKW and then having the ability to bid on the rest of the XJT flying and take those aircraft as well in 12 months.

The XJT pilots would have to vote on that. Their contract states the seniority lists have to be integrated with a buyout or merger.

 

[sweptback]

Ok, USCTrojan just made it seem otherwise and that XJT was offering ASA pilots preferential interviews because of lose of aircraft due to XJT gettting the DAL LAX flying.

Pretty sure he was talking about the SLC closure.

Really, no ASA pilots have bad words to say about ExpressJet. In fact, they helped us by adjusting the DCI average pilot salaries upward.

SkyWest pilots, on the other hand...

 

[cfi_greg]

Most of which upgraded in less than a year - much sooner than they ever would have at ASA.

Now soon to be jobless

 

[XPOO]

"X-Jet to furlough T-Bags"

Does this mean the management is no longer tea-bagging the pilot group? Shouldn't that be a good thing?

 

[USCtrojan]

Ok, USCTrojan just made it seem otherwise and that XJT was offering ASA pilots preferential interviews because of lose of aircraft due to XJT gettting the DAL LAX flying.

XJT took over the LAX base. No airframes were transferred. The transfer (from LAX back to ATL) was not amicable, but the XJT mgmt. told Chief Pilot RC that "he didn't want any bad blood, so we will offer preferential interviews for anybody who lost their base...." This game is business, gentlemen. Do I have animosity towards XJT pilots for the closure? No. I don't get a say. I just go where they tell me. Unfortunately, it's ATL right now. I suffered through the closure of SLC and the transfer of airframes as well. Do I have animosity towards SKYW pilots? No. The game is business, if you're not competitive, you're done. Are Mesa pilots angry at ASA pilots for MCO?

Trojan

 

[Nevets]

XJT took over the LAX base. No airframes were transferred. The transfer (from LAX back to ATL) was not amicable, but the XJT mgmt. told Chief Pilot RC that "he didn't want any bad blood, so we will offer preferential interviews for anybody who lost their base...." This game is business, gentlemen. Do I have animosity towards XJT pilots for the closure? No. I don't get a say. I just go where they tell me. Unfortunately, it's ATL right now. I suffered through the closure of SLC and the transfer of airframes as well. Do I have animosity towards SKYW pilots? No. The game is business, if you're not competitive, you're done. Are Mesa pilots angry at ASA pilots for MCO?

Trojan

Ok but that is way different from what SKW is trying to do to XJT. XJT didn't take ASA airplanes and operate them with XJT pilots furloughing ASA pilots and offering them preferential interviews and having the opportunity to take ALL of ASA airplanes if ASA doesn't become "cost competitive." There is a MAJOR difference there.

 

[XPOO]

Ok but that is way different from what SKW is trying to do to XJT. XJT didn't take ASA airplanes and operate them with XJT pilots furloughing ASA pilots and offering them preferential interviews and having the opportunity to take ALL of ASA airplanes if ASA doesn't become "cost competitive." There is a MAJOR difference there.

Sounds to me like you have nothing to worry about as long as you guys become 'cost competitive' then. Unless you all plan to continue bleeding cash, I guess.

 

[asayankee]

Ok but that is way different from what SKW is trying to do to XJT. XJT didn't take ASA airplanes and operate them with XJT pilots furloughing ASA pilots and offering them preferential interviews and having the opportunity to take ALL of ASA airplanes if ASA doesn't become "cost competitive." There is a MAJOR difference there.

Ahhh, yes...but SKW did take a large number of ASA airplanes, close a base, and offer bottom-of-the-list interviews to all pilots in SLC. All thew while shipping some folks off to a new base that was never supposed to remain open for any length of time in LAX.

 

[Turtlesfly]

heard this from one of the training department instructors.
there goes our west coast bases thanks skyworst!

you've been on this site for almost 3 years and this is your first post - and it isn't even correct? What have you been reading this whole time?

 

[GearBayOverheat]

Anybody furloughed from Xjet would be lucky to get bottom of the barrel interviews at SkyW. Its a much better company anyways...and you would be better off here. XJT is a sinking ship and we are going to just end up buying up the pieces!!!!

 

[Fly2Scuba]

Anybody furloughed from Xjet would be lucky to get bottom of the barrel interviews at SkyW. Its a much better company anyways...and you would be better off here. XJT is a sinking ship and we are going to just end up buying up the pieces!!!!

Junior high school not exciting enough for you huh?