XJT opening ORD base in May.

[atpcliff]

Hi!

As Whydoitry says, my understanding is XJT got this UAL flying because UAL dumped Mesa. Why did they dump Mesa? Basically because Mesa PAID THEIR PILOTS TOO LITTLE MONEY (It is actually a symptom of the problem at Mesa, that caused them to lose the UAL contract.).

cliff
NBO

 

[on autopilot]

Actually When I was in IAH not too long ago, they told us ALL pilots f/a's to be back by trhe end of summer with NEW HIRING for pilots later in the year.

 

[cybourg10]

Actually When I was in IAH not too long ago, they told us ALL pilots f/a's to be back by trhe end of summer with NEW HIRING for pilots later in the year.

Very likely to happen with the current staffing situation. We literally have no reserves. Literally.

 

[007]

keep all these whipsaws from happening.

Last time I looked I did not take a paycut to get this contract.

 

[WayBack]

Last time I looked I did not take a paycut to get this contract.

I was under the impression ExpressJet was in there replacing TSA's flying...who has furloughed hundreds of pilots. Forgive me.

As far as your paycheck. Give it time, you'll take one soon enough and that "Industry Leading" contract will be just like all the other Industry Leading contracts out there. Ask those Comair guys how they're doing.

 

[superrav]

I was under the impression ExpressJet was in there replacing TSA's flying...who has furloughed hundreds of pilots. Forgive me.

As far as your paycheck. Give it time, you'll take one soon enough and that "Industry Leading" contract will be just like all the other Industry Leading contracts out there. Ask those Comair guys how they're doing.

Do you work for MESA? you sound like you do.

 

[WayBack]

Do you work for MESA? you sound like you do.

In fact I do. No wait, I'm Johnny O.

If I did, I wouldn't have been mistaken in my accusations. Grab your shine box and go polish my BMW, Junior!

 

[planejockey]

In fact I do. No wait, I'm Johnny O.

If I did, I wouldn't have been mistaken in my accusations. Grab your shine box and go polish my BMW, Junior!

No flame intended here but why would you want a regional that pays a little better to fold? It seems to me you rather see Mesa and Colgan succeed. I am just curious since I assumed your were a Mainline guy from your profile. If you do fly for one of the majors, you should encourage your MEC or whoever to start lobbying for a paycheck for your future F/Os. Just my .2 cents and like I said no flame intended.

 

[WayBack]

No flame intended here but why would you want a regional that pays a little better to fold? It seems to me you rather see Mesa and Colgan succeed. I am just curious since I assumed your were a Mainline guy from your profile. If you do fly for one of the majors, you should encourage your MEC or whoever to start lobbying for a paycheck for your future F/Os. Just my .2 cents and like I said no flame intended.

I never said I wanted to see them fold, it's just how it happens. Look at all the other regionals who had Industry Leading contracts, and were paid the best. Take Comair for instance. They had the best RJ pay ever and their High Life has come crumbling down over the last year or two.
It's the cycle of aviation. Sad thing is, one day Regionals will be the new Majors...but the pay will never reach near the major levels.
I don't fly 121 anymore, I moved on on to greener pastures.
You have guys who complain all day and talk about how they're leaving...and then you have the guys who actually do it. I got tired of listening to all those other guys.

 

[badog]

the only loser in this game will be the mesa sux pilot group who voted for the sub standard pay and work rules. I say good riddance and have fun in the cheese line a$$hole. I make more $ than you flying a 50 seater than you flying a 70 seater. Who's the loser here? yes, comair is on the ropes because of trash like you! It's taking companies like us to reverse all this bottom feeding. Yeah ********************ty kitty makes less than us! Maybe only $1 per hour but it's still less! Get it????

 

[WayBack]

Get it????

No, but I think your Load Control Valve broken in the closed position and your irritable bowel syndrome, just flew out of your mouth.

 

[badog]

No, but I think your Load Control Valve broken in the closed position and your irritable bowel syndrome, just flew out of your mouth.

if i argue with an idiot, I am an idiot.

 

[WayBack]

if i argue with an idiot, I am an idiot.

Oh you you dint! Stupid is as Stupid does!

Just read your long rant. How many drinks did you have before puking that one up? Lay off the Zima.

 

[nerjdriver]

I was under the impression ExpressJet was in there replacing TSA's flying...who has furloughed hundreds of pilots. Forgive me.

As far as your paycheck. Give it time, you'll take one soon enough and that "Industry Leading" contract will be just like all the other Industry Leading contracts out there. Ask those Comair guys how they're doing.

So...


How is life as a moron?

Now go read your unemployment notice again from Mesa, and just remember the day YOU thought it was worth working there.....or ran out of options. ahem ahem.

 

[detwilers]

I was under the impression ExpressJet was in there replacing TSA's flying...who has furloughed hundreds of pilots. Forgive me.

As far as your paycheck. Give it time, you'll take one soon enough and that "Industry Leading" contract will be just like all the other Industry Leading contracts out there. Ask those Comair guys how they're doing.

Well, I was under the impression that TSA and your Mesa replaced my job at Atlantic Coast Airlines. What goes around comes around.
But you can also say ACA replaced United Mainline in ORD with the introduction of the RJ.
I was just sitting in a United Express painted XJT airplane the other day in shy-town where I spent a few years in the early 00's doing the same flying but in a CRJ. I started to think, wow I have come full circle now. But in reality its not a circle it's an industry wide death spiral. That being said our "industry leading contract" here at XJT is nothing like comair or ACA's contracts were. So I don't see our contract being a huge liabilty to us in a time of crisis.

 

[STINKER]

I was under the impression ExpressJet was in there replacing TSA's flying...who has furloughed hundreds of pilots. Forgive me.

As far as your paycheck. Give it time, you'll take one soon enough and that "Industry Leading" contract will be just like all the other Industry Leading contracts out there. Ask those Comair guys how they're doing.

You can blame Trans States Holdings and G0Jets for the furloughing of T.S.A. pilots not ExpressJet. This board is silly, ALPA is silly, and I am certain that we have furloughed pilots due to changes in our contracts with our mainline carriers . Just what's the chip on your shoulder ? Last time I checked we are operating a 50 seat jet at 70+ seat rates. Can you explain how we've lowered the bar in the United ORD operation ?

Former Waterskier and Current Jetlinker

 

[WayBack]

So...


How is life as a moron?

Now go read your unemployment notice again from Mesa, and just remember the day YOU thought it was worth working there.....or ran out of options. ahem ahem.

Listen, I was being sincere and apologizing for the state I first made. So you call a man who admits his mistakes a Moron? Real nice.
What you need is a reality check. When was the last time you spoke with God? When was the last time you embraced the Lord? I can tell it's been a long long time, because your behavior proves that you do not love yourself. In order to love others, you must love thy self and the Lord. Go to church this weekend.

Hang on, I'll continue this later. But I'm on the phone long distance to Munich, talking to Adolf in the BMW parts department. Seeing if he can send me a new leather gripped steering wheel.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

Stinker: How does Coex compare with TSA? I am curious, as I was at TSA.

cliff
NBO

 

[STINKER]

Cliff,
I enjoyed working with my fellow pilots at TSA they were a great group of guys/gals. Glad to be gone though, as for the comparisons I can't really draw any aside from an Embraer 145 is an Embraer 145. MX, MGMT, Pay, and FLTOPS are much better here as they are most any place when compared to TSA. I wish all of my TSA brethren the best when it comes to ensuring their jobs are preserved. I still have many friends there and I know the struggles they face.

 

[dojetdriver]

That being said our "industry leading contract" here at XJT is nothing like comair or ACA's contracts were. So I don't see our contract being a huge liabilty to us in a time of crisis.

Amen brother...