XJT flying for United

[gator_hater]

Sorry to sound like mgmt, but it was probably in ASA's interest NOT to have a base of 6 planes on the opposite side of the country.

 

[brokedash]

If it's true, it'll be the first regional airline in history that's more comfortable to ride on than its mainline partner...

I hate riding on "Ted."

Actually Ted is the only product UAL has that I like.

 

[brokedash]

www.mesahub.com one of the guys says that todays Mesa MEC update is announcing Mesa is pulling out of IAD and losing all the UAL flying.

Already visited that site and post, but nothing in directly metioning MAG is losing all UAL flying, for accuracy, where did that come from in that specific post?

As far as the rumors go Express Jet is operating temporialy for UAX. Apparently TSA is getting some more ERJs ready for UAX service, most likely coming on line at the end of the Express Jet contract.

 

[saab fixr]

no to mention the loss of the DGS contract ground handling will be a real treat Just when you thought it couldnt get bad its going to turn worst Airwilly got the contract and offered pay cuts to the rampies that were only making 9.90 an hour Get ready to rumble this should be good Welcome xjet to the ZOO

 

[CA1900]

Actually Ted is the only product UAL has that I like.

For me, all it means is that no matter how much I pay for a ticket nor how high I get on their frequent-flier program, I don't even have a shot at First Class and a hot meal. So I just route any United frequent-flier miles to US Airways, whom I'd much rather ride on a personal trip between the two.

Different tastes, I guess.

 

[Sioux115]

XJT snaked ASA out of LAX. ASA was in the process of getting a base established at LAX and XJT went to DAL and offered to do the LAX flying for less than ASA. (No RFP by DAL) DAL in all of their loyalty took XJT up on their undercut offer to save a nickel and screwed all of those ASA crews out of a west coast hub. XJT can kiss my a$$.

With all this "snaking" talk it seems that everyone has forgot who's flying it really is, ie. United and Delta mainline.

 

[SMOE]

XJT snaked ASA out of LAX. ASA was in the process of getting a base established at LAX and XJT went to DAL and offered to do the LAX flying for less than ASA. (No RFP by DAL) DAL in all of their loyalty took XJT up on their undercut offer to save a nickel and screwed all of those ASA crews out of a west coast hub. XJT can kiss my a$$.

Didn't get through the interview, eh?

Cocaine is a powerful drug...

 

[lowlycfi]

With all this "snaking" talk it seems that everyone has forgot who's flying it really is, ie. United and Delta mainline.

Don't try to bring logic and facts onto flightinfo.com. It has no place here.

 

[brokedash]

For me, all it means is that no matter how much I pay for a ticket nor how high I get on their frequent-flier program, I don't even have a shot at First Class and a hot meal. So I just route any United frequent-flier miles to US Airways, whom I'd much rather ride on a personal trip between the two.

Different tastes, I guess.

Not disagreeing here, I'll fly Airways anyday over United. In my previous post I was just pointing out the one product UA has that I liked.

 

[BankAccount=0$]

XJT snaked ASA out of LAX. ASA was in the process of getting a base established at LAX and XJT went to DAL and offered to do the LAX flying for less than ASA. (No RFP by DAL) DAL in all of their loyalty took XJT up on their undercut offer to save a nickel and screwed all of those ASA crews out of a west coast hub. XJT can kiss my a$$.

Hmmmm, XJT pilots are paid more than both ASA and SkyWest pilots. I would think that the management group from XJT found some other way of convincing the Delta management that XJT could be an asset to their operation..... Simply put, there is a lot more to cost than just pilot salaries......

 

[dojetdriver]

Hmmmm, XJT pilots are paid more than both ASA and SkyWest pilots. I would think that the management group from XJT found some other way of convincing the Delta management that XJT could be an asset to their operation..... Simply put, there is a lot more to cost than just pilot salaries......

Yep, pretty much. At the end of the day, it's a management decision. As much as we like to think we run the airline, all that crap happens above our pay grade. Whether we like it or not.

I've had THREE DelCon bases close on me. Even though our aircraft was better suited to most of the routes, each time the flying was replaced by an airline with a higher paying pilot contract and a more expensive aircraft to operate.

At the end of the day, it's not "our" flying as far as being a regional pilot goes. It's main line's, they just decide who they want to do it for them, often against their own pilot's wishes in many cases.

 

[STINKER]

XJT snaked ASA out of LAX. ASA was in the process of getting a base established at LAX and XJT went to DAL and offered to do the LAX flying for less than ASA. (No RFP by DAL) DAL in all of their loyalty took XJT up on their undercut offer to save a nickel and screwed all of those ASA crews out of a west coast hub. XJT can kiss my a$$.

Keep eating the mushrooms! As the previous poster said it is not our flying. Everyone is getting jerked around at the regional level.Last time I checked our airline is paid pretty well compared to most. Congrats to ASA on their new contract! I didn't take a pay cut to get Delta Connection flying. A$$hole!

Cheers,
S
Ex Waterskier Current Jetlinker

 

[trip]

Actually Ted is the only product UAL has that I like.

No kidding, I'd much rather ride on the Bus than those ratbag 37's and all the grammas working them!

 

[A-V-8]

www.mesahub.com one of the guys says that todays Mesa MEC update is announcing Mesa is pulling out of IAD and losing all the UAL flying.

I just read the email and it does not say that. It refrences the X-Jet planes coming to assume the flying that we cant staff. We are waiting for the company response to our contract proposal. That should be soon and if the company rejects our proposal good luck staffing the place. Full blown section 6.

 

[BigLebowski]

Hmmmm, XJT pilots are paid more than both ASA and SkyWest pilots. I would think that the management group from XJT found some other way of convincing the Delta management that XJT could be an asset to their operation..... Simply put, there is a lot more to cost than just pilot salaries......

mmm...not sure about this. Friend of mine at XJet, same seat, same longevity...i made more last year with my bonuses etc.

 

[Superpilot92]

mmm...not sure about this. Friend of mine at XJet, same seat, same longevity...i made more last year with my bonuses etc.

mmm...If that is the case i would be willing to bet your "friend" had more days off then you did?

 

[coolyokeluke]

mmm...not sure about this. Friend of mine at XJet, same seat, same longevity...i made more last year with my bonuses etc.

Was it for 50, 70 or 90 seat aircraft? You should've made a lot more if the latter two.

 

[dojetdriver]

mmm...not sure about this. Friend of mine at XJet, same seat, same longevity...i made more last year with my bonuses etc.

Sorry, I'm guessing you are SkyWest? If not, then kindly disregard the following.

But yep, I've heard that SkyWest guys can do pretty well with those pseudo "work rules" that they have.

However, imagine how much more impressive it would sound, as well as how much more bragging rights you would have if SkyWest pilots ACTUALLY got paid decent rate when operating the 70/90 seat aircraft.

All other things equal, if the total pay credit was the same for any given month, an XJET guy (50 seat equipment) would make pretty much the SAME amount as a SkyWest guy that spent the entire month flying 70-90 seat equipment.

It's a beautiful thing isn't it? Someone can thump their chest that they are carrying more people around for 0% more hourly rate than a 50 seat pilot does.

 

[viper548]

with more and more guys on reserve and not breaking guarantee, the BHO is looking more and more like a pile of crap

 

[Gr82Aviate]

with more and more guys on reserve and not breaking guarantee, the BHO is looking more and more like a pile of crap

Always has been!!!