Xj Downgrade Classes

[captain dad]

Attrition is so high that realignment / downgrade classes will start and then be canceled to get arround the contract and training costs. A new realignment will then be posted and classes will be rescheduled. I have heard this from several sources that should know.

Other reasons may be lack of AVRO sim time in Europe, managements inability to buy a clue and crew planning still unable to staff properly durring a layoff period. They have been junior manning and canceling flights for lack of crews. I wish I was kidding.

I am sad to see my little airline that everyone loved turn into the punchline of a bad joke.

For those profiting off the hard unappreciated and underpayed work of others...sleep well. You will get yours in the end.

 

[xjhawk]

wow, i hope you are right on this account, i forgot to take pics on my last avro flight.....sure hope to get another chance to fly it and take some pics! i hear that the head people in the training dept are working long hours, i am assuming that its cause they are planning, then replanning.....

 

[xjgearbtch]

Everyday on the union webboard there is another C-yaa announcement. The way I look at it, management doesn't care. They know they will have to train everyone for the new CRJ's. Why not train a new hire at a cheaper cost. We are "cost units" not people to them. They could care less about the company family, or our own families.

Poverty wages, Food stamps, this is Mesaba's bussiness plan. Mesaba 2425, D'angelo, all those other management punks. Hold your head up high. I'm sure your family would be very proud that you side with these sad excuse. Tell your mother your proud that these hard working folks, now have to use state assistance to survive. Where the hell is your logic?

When this storm is over, when Sponge Bob shows up to RGS, and acts all buddy with us. I'll tell him to shove it and walk out.

"Look me in the eyes when you rape me" quote from a great band

 

[YourPilotFriend]

I don't understnad their logic or the compass logic. There is no way to staff these airlines when the insurance mins are going to push it up to 1500 TT for ERJ's. On top of that Mesa is hiring at 300 hrs and gets less than 20 apps a month, and mesaba wants a lower contract.

 

[Northern Lights]

So just how high is attrition right now? It's a little harder to follow, not having access to MyMesaba. According the the last list on the ALPA board, I moved up about 50 numbers while on furlough.

 

[gnx99]

So just how high is attrition right now? It's a little harder to follow, not having access to MyMesaba. According the the last list on the ALPA board, I moved up about 50 numbers while on furlough.

From the 30 January 06 seniority list, to now, I think i've moved 70 numbers.

 

[CubanSmoker]

From the 30 January 06 seniority list, to now, I think i've moved 70 numbers.

63 numbers for me
Spring '04 newhire

 

[SEVEN]

70 numbers for me.
Feb '05 hire date

 

[Hulk Hogan]

Late feb 05?

 

[Chris9702l]

City Jet

Just wait til people start going to CityJet. I hearing at least 5 to 10 are bailing out to go to Europe. Wouldn't mind it myself.

Chris

 

[xjgearbtch]

I hope theses guys aren't stepping into an equivalent of freedom of go jet. Has the union done any research if this City Jet is a good idea.

 

[xjhawk]

one of the guys from city jet painted a very good deal at city jet

 

[Dodge]

As long as it doesn't take away a job of a current pilot like the threat of freedom #1 and what the g0 jet losers are doing, I say "good luck" to 'em.

 

[xjgearbtch]

that good deal he described is what makes me worry. There is always more to the story, paranoia/mesabanoia what ever you want to call it. Then again who cares they'll just be swearing at you in french. It'll sound cute.

 

[W&BWiz]

Europe hasn't caught up with the U.S., pilots are still like doctors and lawyers over there, not just cheap labor.

 

[flap operator]

Contract flying is nothing new over at CityJet and neither are direct hire captains. They staff the airline in 3 ways... cadet program, contract pilots and direct hire. There is no seniority to be disregarded and the contract pilots are not working for an alter ego carrier (the freedom analogy). So... it just might be as good as advertised.

FO

 

[xjhawk]

wow the union peeps worrying about the jobs over there when any good suggesttion put forth here to protect our jobs fromthe skid to the bottom we have now(one pay scale.....etc) is shot down before mr woerth can cash his paycheck on fridays.........

 

[XJohXJ]

CityJet looks good, but not a picnic by any means. They pay for the furnished apartment. 5 on 3 off 6 on 2 off. Days don't look very long (a few flights, not 7 like at XJ) home almost every night (3 or 4 single overnights per month) kind of like a normal job. Here's the good part FO pay $60,000 AFTER tax, captain right around $90 or $100K, I forget which. (Don't forget the FREE lodging.)

 

[WMUSIGPI]

Wow. Too bad I was kicked to the curb before I could get the 500 in type. That sounds like a fine picnic compared to this air ambulance stuff.

 

[Whataboutbob]

Not only 500 in type but I guess they wanted 1500 hours of (Multi Crew Aircraft time) or in U.S terms Part 121 time.

 

[XJohXJ]

Yeah, it was the 1500 pt. 121 that sunk my battleship. Close, but no cigar.