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A1FlyBoy

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Police escorted craines on semi-trucks to Meigs Field over the cover of darkness. The City of Chicago crews tore up the runway, gouging large "x's" into the runnway. This- all before the FAA granted approval.

Several aircraft still reside at the airport, but will be allowed to depart.

Looks like Mayor Daley's "no fly zone" and hatred of Meigs is really a done deal. It's a shame that he has to resort to a false hope of "security" which does nothing to truly protect, but ultimatly hurts aviation.

:confused: :mad: :(
 
What do you expect?

Daley has been wanting this for years, and now it finally seems to be coming true. I almost believe that this is a "legacy" issue for him - wanting the lakefront to be all parks. I agree that it looks nice to have parks, but if you aren't in aviation, you can't explain to someone who isn't, the benefits that Meigs brings to Chicago.

It's such a shame......:mad:
 
After living in downtown Chicago for 18 years I can tell you that the city's lakefront parks are quite impressive. I will miss flying into Meigs but in all honesty the airport was never funded properly and the GA operations were poor.

The big picture for Daley is the push for a 3rd airport ( Peotone ) or a substantial enhancement of Midway. Considering the current airline industry I don't know where all this will lead but down the road there will be a third airport.

For the record I am a conservative but Daley is a sh-t hot big city mayor. He has done a great job woth that town.
 
At least Microsoft Flight Simulator still starts you off at Meigs Field
 
F*cking Daley! Just like his old man sending in the cops to kick the cr*p out of the hippies, he thinks he can flout how big his b*lls are all over the city. I imagine those owners of the stranded airplanes at Meigs are going to have some major lawsuits ready for the city of Chicago.
I went down to SPI back in '96 to lobby and help keep Meigs open. We managed to win the backing of Governer Edgar and prevented Daley from giving it the axe in '97 like he wanted. But even then I knew it was only a matter of years until the City of Chicago got what it wanted. After all nobody runs Illinois like the Chicago political machine and take a guess who runs that.
The garden project is all his wife's idea, so I'm sure Richard will do whatever he can to actually get laid. Too bad its gone though. When I used to instruct at PWK, I can't tell you how many foreign visitors I had who just wanted to go up and land at Meigs. They were all so gitty, because of course they had done it on Microsoft Flight Simulator so many times.
 
I herd that the real reason is that Daley and ALPA I mean the Mafia were to sent up casino boats and use the parks as a cover to get the votes and support...Wait and see if I am wrong. Any normal city would love to have an aiport like that so close to town and the convention center? Daley is clueless. His days are numbered.
 
What a piece of sh!t Mayor Daley is. I hope AOPA funds a recall campaign. I also hope the FAA goes after him. Could this be a criminal act on a federal managed facility?

From AOPA:

Mar. 31 — Sneaking in under the cover of darkness, city of Chicago construction crews began tearing up the runway at Meigs Field this morning at about 1:30 a.m. There was no advance warning, not even to the FAA. Some 16 aircraft are stranded on the field. A city source told the Chicago media that the "airport is closed for good" for "homeland security reasons."

"We are absolutely shocked and dismayed," said AOPA President Phil Boyer. "Mayor Daley has no honor and his word has no value. The sneaky way he did this shows that he knows it was wrong."

Boyer immediately fired faxes off to FAA Administrator Marion Blakey and Transportation Security Administration chief Adm. James M. Loy to discuss possible solutions.

"During a period when the country is at war in the Middle East, why must the mayor of Chicago also play dictator with a most valuable airport and cause additional turmoil inside our own country?" asked Boyer.

"While the federal and state airport laws may not have been broken by this action, last year he pledged to keep the airport open, in support of federal legislation that granted him expansion of O'Hare airport. The mayor has broken his promise not only to the citizens of his own city, but to the pilots of America.

"We will once again explore the legality of this action, but past research indicates that the law hasn't been broken." Boyer continued, "but we're not going to allow the mayor to hide behind the fiction of 'homeland security' for his reprehensible action."

(To see the damage already done to Meigs field, visit www.adlerplanetarium.org and select Sky Eye Cam and then Meigs under "select a view.")

The city's actions caught everyone by surprise. Despite Mayor Richard M. Daley's penchant for publicity, the news media was caught off guard. The FAA was not able to issue a notam on the closing until hours after the fact. AOPA's Legislative Affairs office reports that even some members of the Illinois congressional delegation were caught unawares, particularly interesting since those members of Congress had been working with Mayor Daley on legislation that would preserve Meigs and expand O'Hare International Airport. As late as Friday afternoon, AOPA was in discussions with key staffers from the Illinois delegation concerning that legislation.

The action surprised the Meig's Field FBO. When they asked the city what would happen to the aircraft trapped at the field, the FBO was told, "That's your problem." However, AOPA's Midwest Regional Representative Bill Blake reports that the stranded aircraft may be allowed to depart using the taxiway sometime this week.

Chicago Mayor Daley had sought to close Meigs until a year ago, when an historic agreement between the city and the State of Illinois "guaranteed" the airport's survival for 25 years. Daley gave his word that he would not seek to close Meigs in exchange for support for his plan to expand O'Hare International Airport and build a new airport at Peotone.

As of 9 a.m. EST, the mayor's office had neither released any statement nor scheduled any announcement.
 
What is so sad is that none of the lawsuits, bitching, AOPA fighting, will do any good against Daley. He is like someone had said earlier, a Chicago dictator, not a mayor. This is truely a sad day for Chicago, to loose something that was so unique and a legend in the aviation community. I have lived in Chicago for 22 years, minus the 5 I have been away at school, and only got to fly into Meigs once, just one of those "I'll do it again soon" type things you wish you could have gotten to do again. Daley was just jealous of disneyland and disneyworld. They got TFR's, along with NYC and LA so he felt left out. And someone can correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't the governor fly into Meigs all the time in the King Air 350??? Don't the Springfield politicians use it all the time? I know the last (only) time I was there they were preflighting the state of IL 350 waiting for the governor to get back. I asked a line guy about it and he said they (the politicians) all loved meigs, it got them right into downtown without any hassle of commuting.
 
Suggestion

Contact the Mayor and tell him what you think.

Office of the Mayor:
Address: Office of the Mayor
121 N. LaSalle, Room 507
Chicago, IL 60602

Facsimile: 312-744-8045
http://egov.cityofchicago.org/city/webportal/home.do

I suggest telling the Mayor that you will no longer spend your tourist dollars in his city based on his decision. Hopefully some lawyers with extra cash will start slapping some lawsuits on him.

Tell him you will purposely try to avoid flying through any airport in Chicago. Thus preventing his city from benefitting from any aviation related revenue.

I am sure there are lots of other ways to make an impact. Whether you carry them out is another matter. The threat may be good enough.
 
At least Microsoft Flight Simulator still starts you off at Meigs Field
 
Da Mayer

Just like daddy in 1967 - he thinks he is the be all and end all in Chicago. Can do anything he wants anywhere he wants and if ya don't like it---h*ll wit cha...

Quite glad I moved out of the area 10 years ago (unlike fly chicaga, I lived in Chicago Ridge and worked in da city)---maybe the good citizens will get rid of King Richard next time they go to the polls (of course my vote will be cast in the Ridge for the current democrat there, I guess...).
 
I am so mad right now I don't know what to say.

I can relate this story though:
A charter flight in a King Air 200 departed the airport where I am employed as a CFI only to find out from Chicago Center (they filed, talked to clearance delivery, ground, tower and departure before being notified of this...clearly even the FAA didn't even know about this) that they were cleared to Chicago Heights but not to Meigs because it was being bulldozed. The stunned silence of the crew said it all...they were probably asking their pax where they wanted to go now?

What about the people employed at Meigs and those with aircraft there? Did the employees show up to work today only to be told they were now unemployed??!!?

F*CK YOU DALEY! Chicago has lost it's last unique claim to fame and it's all his fault. Can a mayor be impeached?
 
Latest ATCSCC Advisory

The latest ATCSCC advisory lists it as "runway construction", FWIW:

ATCSCC Advisory
ATCSCC ADVZY 021 CGX/ZAU 03/31/2003 AIRPORT CLOSURE UPDATE
MESSAGE:
DESTINATION AIRPORT: CGX
REMARKS: CGX IS CLOSED, RWY CONSTRUCTION IN PROGRESS. CURRENTLY,
THERE IS NO ESTIMATE ON WHEN CGX WILL REOPEN. SUGGEST USERS CHECK
NOTAMS FOR FURTHER INFORMATION AND UPDATES.


EFFECTIVE TIME:
311405 - 312359
SIGNATURE:
03/03/31 14:02

Edited for typos.
 
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The head of the Senate Aviation Subcomittee is Trent Lott.

U.S. Senate switchboard is (202) 224-3121. You can ask for Senator Lott's office. AOPA is having a real meltdown over this, as thousands of pilots are callling.

You can make some calls, too.
 
I never got to fly into Meigs. Would have been fun, but...

Unfortunately, he'll be hailed for this action. When the peeps get their new parks, amphitheaters, fishing piers, bird sanctuaries, etc., he'll be a hero.

The numbers are easy to see. 500,000 more votes from the happy masses versus 10,000 uphappy pilots (on a good day). It's a no brainer to a non-GA pilot.
 
What the f**k?

What can be done? How can we let our voices heard? This is Bullsh!T....
 
stranded planes better get out of there

IF it were me, I'd get the fuk outta there while there is still a taxiway suitable for taking off on. I'd had to tell the boss we're gonna have to take the wings off his plane and ship it home.

Really folks better get outta there.
 
F*ck Daley

What the f*ck does he think he is doing? Seeing as the airport was/is maintained to Part 139 standards (most likely with federal grants) from when LakesAir flew SPI-CGX, I sure hope the FAA and the various alphabet groups can have a field day with this.

That p*ssy doesn't even have an email listed under his contact information.
 
As a Chicagoian this is just disgusting. First off how does this improve security? The TFR banning flights below 3000 feet above Chicago does nothing, how long does it take a dive to put an airplane into a building from 3000 feet to 1100 feet (the height of the Sears Tower?) Please! Further the WAY this was done, with no notice, no discussion, major hardship to the FBOs, plane owners etc. who had no warning about the closing... horrible!
 
Don't you understand that if planes can't take off from Meigs they can't run into buildings? Kinda like Die Hard II when the planes could only land at Dulles and not the other 2 airports around the DC area! NOT!

Mayor Daley is a worthless piece of sh!t.
 
Anyone know who owns the planes still stranded there? They need to file a big-arse lawsuit against the City of Chicago.

I'd make Chicago pay for the dismantling, transportation, and reassembly costs AS WELL AS the cost of the 757 I had to charter because my plane was stranded in Meigs not to mention being compensated for loss of work and time in having to deal with this mess. I hope Daley gets the pants sued off of him!
 
Poll from the Chicago Tribune:

Grounded
Was closing Meigs Field a good idea?

30.0%
Yes (2591 responses)

70.0%
No (6034 responses)

8625 total responses
(Poll results not scientific)

From the article on Chicagotribune.com

Saying he acted out of concern for public safety and desire to spare citizens "months and maybe years" of contentious debate, Mayor Richard Daley today defended his decision to close Meigs Field and have its runway torn up in the dark of night.

"We have done this to protect the millions of people who live, work and visit downtown Chicago in these very uncertain times," Daley said at a City Hall news conference after construction equipment early this morning put Meigs out of commission.

The safety of the entire city has to take precedence over the wishes of a handful of private pilots and business people," the mayor said.

But Daley, who has long sought to close Meigs and replace it with a park and nature preserve, said the city had received no specific threat about a possible terrorist attack involving a private aircraft.

About 11 p.m. Sunday, several backhoes, large trucks carrying floodlights, generators and other equipment arrived at the airport and started working on the north-to-south runway. Chicago police barred access to the field for anyone else.

Asked why the city took the action without warning, Daley said: "To do this any other way would have been needlessly contentious and jeopardized public safety and prolonged concerns and anxiety among Chicagoans for months and maybe years."

The city has operated Meigs under a month-to-month lease with the Chicago Park District. The park district has terminated the lease, so the city had no choice but to close the airport, city officials said.

Daley said the March 22 federal implementation of a no-fly zone over the city was "simply not enough" to ensure the safety of the public.

That rule prohibited small aircraft from flying within 3,000 feet of the ground over downtown and much of the North Side, but allowed continued access to Meigs.

But Daley complained that a temporary flight restriction could be rescinded at any time.

"More important, it does not address the problem that occurs every day as aircraft approach Meigs Field, with a few hundred yards and only a few seconds' flight time from out tallest buildings."

The mayor also expressed concern for the safety of "hundreds of thousands of people" at city festivals, museums and beaches within range of planes at Meigs. "With a sudden turn, they can cause a terrible tragedy downtown or in our crowded parks."

Daley promised that, if the Federal Aviation Administration doesn't let owners of 16 planes stranded at Meigs use a still-intact taxiway for takeoff, the city will reimburse them for removal of their craft by other means.

Steve Whitney, former president of Friends of Meigs Field, criticized the city's use of national security as justification for closing the airport.

Whitney said medical and air-sea rescue aircraft use Meigs, which he contended could also be used by emergency aircraft following a downtown disaster.

"It makes absolutely no sense from any standpoint, particularly for homeland security, to close Meigs Field," Whitney said.

At a City Hall press conference after Daley spoke, Whitney described the mayor's action as "a land grab" and "an abuse of power." He said that his organization would study possible legal action.

"We are absolutely shocked and dismayed," said Phil Boyer, president of the Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association, another organization that has fought Meigs' closing.

"Mayor Daley has no honor and his word has no value," Boyer said. "The sneaky way he did this shows that he knows it was wrong."

But Boyer and an FAA spokesman conceded that the city appeared to have the legal right to close Meigs.

"The city can do this because Meigs is an unobligated airport," said the FAA's Tony Molinaro. About three years ago, Chicago repaid federal grant funds that had been used to improve Meigs, he said.

The closure did not violate FAA regulations, and the city had the authority to issue a formal Notice to Airmen notifying pilots of the closed runway, Molinaro said. An official with the Chicago Department of Aviation said the notice was issued at 3:02 a.m.

"We at the FAA were concerned to learn this morning of the decision to close Meigs Field, and we have heard already from members of the general aviation community, and we share their concern," Molinaro said.

"We feel that removing any centrally located airport such as Meigs from the national airspace system only diminishes capacity and puts added pressure on O'Hare and Midway airports.''

Last year, Meigs handled 32,000 takeoffs and landings.

Separately, a spokeswoman for Gov. Rod Blagojevich said the governor also was not told of Daley's plans, but supported the mayor's decision to close Meigs as a matter of public safety.

Daley originally intended to close the airport in February 2002 and turn it into a park and nature preserve, but he held off doing so to win then-Gov. George Ryan's support for federal legislation backing the $6.6 billion expansion of O'Hare International Airport.

Under terms of a deal reached with Ryan in December 2001, Daley agreed to keep the lakefront airport open until Jan. 1, 2026, although Meigs could have been closed anytime after Jan. 1, 2006, by a vote of the General Assembly.

The deal was supposed to have been solidified in federal legislation endorsing the O'Hare expansion.

But U.S. Sen. Dick Durbin, an Illinois Democrat, earlier this month declared the federal bill dead because of opposition from his Republican counterpart, U.S. Sen. Peter Fitzgerald.

Asked about that deal at today's news conference, Daley replied, "There is no agreement whatsoever."

"The agreement is not in existence. There's no federal legislation," Daley said.

Tribune staff reporters Gary Washburn, Jon Hilkevitch, John Chase and Casey Bukro and CLTV and WGN-Ch. 9 contributed to this story.
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