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X-Jet Comments from 2003

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Neal,

Though I appreciate your work and efforts, you clearly stated "you don't want to risk your $30'000+ retro pay to attempt to acheive anything better". Thats great for YOU, but you represent a lot more than yourself - here! The company has hired over 300 pilots this year, and has plans to continue to hire many more. These rates (FO) are unacceptable in today's economy. They're hinged upon unsatisfactory Captain rates, and an Unsatisfactory FO percentage. We are approaching the absolute bottom in the industry, legacy carriers will adapt or fold tents, and we are in a great position to move forward. The Management knows this and so do you. The rush to offer an agreement is due in part to our opportunities in the marketplace that already exist, as well as opportunities afforded in the near future with the state of legacy carriers.

Fuel costs are at an all time high, WE ALL KNOW THAT! But these costs can easily be offset by raising ticket prices, Very slightly. The demand exists now for air travel, and as long as low cost carriers continue to sell seats at a loss, the potenial to raise prices remains a problem. They cannot continue indefinately to discount these seats.

This industry CAN afford to pay a decent wage, and we have yet to see this. Comair acheived a significant contract in 2001, and we can today.
You have a very professional pilot group behind you, that when compensated appropriately will deliver.
 
bigguy said:
Neal,

Though I appreciate your work and efforts, you clearly stated "you don't want to risk your $30'000+ retro pay to attempt to acheive anything better". Thats great for YOU, but you represent a lot more than yourself - here! The company has hired over 300 pilots this year, and has plans to continue to hire many more. These rates (FO) are unacceptable in today's economy. They're hinged upon unsatisfactory Captain rates, and an Unsatisfactory FO percentage. We are approaching the absolute bottom in the industry, legacy carriers will adapt or fold tents, and we are in a great position to move forward. The Management knows this and so do you. The rush to offer an agreement is due in part to our opportunities in the marketplace that already exist, as well as opportunities afforded in the near future with the state of legacy carriers.

Fuel costs are at an all time high, WE ALL KNOW THAT! But these costs can easily be offset by raising ticket prices, Very slightly. The demand exists now for air travel, and as long as low cost carriers continue to sell seats at a loss, the potenial to raise prices remains a problem. They cannot continue indefinately to discount these seats.

This industry CAN afford to pay a decent wage, and we have yet to see this. Comair acheived a significant contract in 2001, and we can today.
You have a very professional pilot group behind you, that when compensated appropriately will deliver.
Neal was talking about the 30 MILLION (insert dr. evil here) that the pilot group could potentially forfeit, not his cut. Hell, for $30K I'd even vote yes on this thing!!!!

Although now that I think about, many may get such a check. Those of us who were furloughed can only dream and continue to work for poverty level wages.
 
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bigguy said:
Neal,

Though I appreciate your work and efforts, you clearly stated "you don't want to risk your $30'000+ retro pay to attempt to acheive anything better". Thats great for YOU, but you represent a lot more than yourself - here! The company has hired over 300 pilots this year, and has plans to continue to hire many more. These rates (FO) are unacceptable in today's economy. They're hinged upon unsatisfactory Captain rates, and an Unsatisfactory FO percentage. We are approaching the absolute bottom in the industry, legacy carriers will adapt or fold tents, and we are in a great position to move forward. The Management knows this and so do you. The rush to offer an agreement is due in part to our opportunities in the marketplace that already exist, as well as opportunities afforded in the near future with the state of legacy carriers.

Fuel costs are at an all time high, WE ALL KNOW THAT! But these costs can easily be offset by raising ticket prices, Very slightly. The demand exists now for air travel, and as long as low cost carriers continue to sell seats at a loss, the potenial to raise prices remains a problem. They cannot continue indefinately to discount these seats.

This industry CAN afford to pay a decent wage, and we have yet to see this. Comair acheived a significant contract in 2001, and we can today.
You have a very professional pilot group behind you, that when compensated appropriately will deliver.
JetLinkin is correct. If you reread what I wrote, I said $30,000,000 or $30mm or $30 million, which doesn't count our $600,000 for our flight instructors too.

My retro check is not anywhere close to $30,000. For 90% of the time spent working for ALPA the past 2.5 years, I was on FO pay by the way.

Lastly, I do not want to debate our strategy or rationale on here, especially since you have not chosen to post your name. If you would like to discuss your concerns, by all means, call or email me. Even better, come to a road show and voice your concerns. See you soon.

-Neal
 

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