WTC lawsuits go forward against UA & AA

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http://www.usatoday.com/usatonline/20030910/5485821s.htm

This is bad. Scary Mary Schaivo is wrong, as usual. Yes it does effect the airlines if they get sued for trillions, yes trillions, because it will raise insurance rates and possibly cause the collapse of the aviation insurance industry. No insurance, no financing, no financing, no airplanes. Yes, it has an effect.

 

[chawbein]

I was surprised this didn't get posted before. How can airlines be found liable for someone committing a crime on their airplane. That is like saying a store owner is responsible because he allowed someone to get inside his store with a gun and blow the place up. I sure some @ss-lick lawyer can explain it, but it defies logic and reason. How can Boeing be held negligent, because they built an airplane that flies?

WTFO!!!!!!!!!

 

[ArcticFlier]

You're injecting logic into this. You can't do that.

AF

 

[cherokee]

These victims who are suing to get a fatter check rather than receive money from the gov't compensation program are quickly losing sympathy with me...I suppose if an airliner ever goes down because of a shoulder mounted missile, Boeing should get sued for not having anti-missile technology aboard Oh wait, we can also sue the company that makes the aluminum for the aircraft since it didn't withstand a missile, oh yeah and how about suing Honeywell for not having an 'Anti missile/Strike Finder' avionics display on board. No wonder people hate lawyers.

 

[U of I Tweak]

D-bags...
It takes some balls to use 9/11 to make money

 

[Styles]

Not many things "piss me off", but this PISSES ME OFF.

Those lawyers should be deported to Afghanistan. I will donate my next 3 months paychecks to help pay for their transportation.

I would save your money, I'm sure there are some international cargo pilots out there that would not mind some cargo like that to board. Just make sure it is NOT a pressurized cargo hold.

 

[Riddle momma]

This is freakin' BS!!!!

I agree with all of you. People making money from 9-11 are just low. Do they not realize money doesn't bring people back from the dead? I am sorry they lost their loved ones, I really am, but their grief does not justify the downfall of an entire industry and its hundreds of thousands of employees!

SELFISH FOKKERS!

 

[WrightAvia]

Those lawyers should be deported to Afghanistan. I will donate my next 3 months paychecks to help pay for their transportation.

Three months of new hire regional f/o pay is help?

 

[saabtrash]

It's not just the lawyers though, there has to be someone behind them to file the suit...I think? Probably the victims families. So much for being "victims." Half of these people were probably against the war on Afghanistan and Iraq on top of it, why fight overseas when you can attack your fellow countrymen.

Such a joke.

That probably made no sense...I ramble when I'm p*ssed.

 

[crxpilot]

Does bankruptcy make these lawsuits null

Doesnt bankruptcy pretty much wipe away any lawsuits that are filed against you except for taxes? Thats the way I understand it. If so, the AA may be bankrupt yet.....

 

[bigD]

I will donate my next 3 months paychecks to help pay for their transportation.

And I'll match that $60 bucks with 60 of my own!

Juuuuust kidding Fly! You know I tease out of jealousy!

 

[skyking1976]

Man.......

Talk about frivolous lawsuits. I guess airlines should start putting disclaimers on their tickets saying: "Not responsible for crashes related to militant Muslim terrorists." Those are some big, stinky balls those lawyers are hanging out.

SK

 

[FlyForFood_NOT]

On top of that, Boeing is opened to lawsuits under an argument that "it didn't have safer cockpit doors installed."

Stupid, ignorant, #@%^&%!

That's how aviation industry develops - newer planes come online with improvements. How can you sue for such nonsense?
Back in the 60s, 70s every airplane flew with the cockpit doors open.

Why don't they sue on the fact that the 1920s planes were made of wood and fiber cloth?!?
I mean, OH MY GOD, how unsafe?!!!
Ummm, I calling my lawyer right now

 

[DenverDude2002]

This is an outrage

I couldnt believe it when i heard it. Why dont we just blame the morons who let these ******* sobs through security? Or why not blame? I cant believe after all that has happened that this is happening. The airlines deserve a break. They already lost 4ac and 8 good pilots, they really dont deseve this. I'm hoping the supreme coirt will overturn this ruling because I know its angering a lot of the voting people.

 

[WrightAvia]

The airlines deserve a break

The airlines are greedy corporate entities that squander money, take advantange of their employee's and then come crying to Uncle Sam every time they run into red ink.

Those doors were flimsy from the get go and the way the lawyers are going pursue this, is the same way YOUR lawyers would pursue me and the manufacturer of a gun that was stolen out of my home by teenagers and used in a school shooting to kill one your kids.

Yea, it's all fun and games till someone gets an eye poked out. The airlines had a duty a long time ago to get secured doors on those airliners. The pilots must have seen and sensed the potential danger and did nothing. Show me one union meeting where doors to the cockpit being closed from block out, to block in, was being asked for...or even asking for more secure doors. The manufacturers had to know that someone could easily comandeer their product and put forth modified doors on it's new planes...but that would have indicated that they "KNEW" there could be a problem with those flimsy doors.

9/11 couldn't have existed if it weren't for Boeing making planes BIG enough to take down the towers. Remember the towers were built to withstand an impact of the airliner of the day, not the big Boeing. Also 9/11 couldn't have existed without those flimsy doors being left open.

You can pick on lawyers all you want. But I can bet if you lost a loved one, the loss of a limb, eye, hearing, or property in a mishap, you'd be getting one too.

 

[lionflyer]

"Remember the towers were built to withstand an impact of the airliner of the day, not the big Boeing."

I'm sure a 707 or a 727 would have brought those towers down just as easily.

 

[Mugs]

The manufacturers had to know that someone could easily comandeer their product and put forth modified doors on it's new planes...but that would have indicated that they "KNEW" there could be a problem with those flimsy doors.

Maybe a modified door would have helped, maybe not. Remember the psychology of how to deal with a hijacking was vastly different pre 9-11. History had shown that cooperate and graduate was the way to go. Suppose those pilots were sitting behind today's doors on 9-11. If the hijackers had said open the door or we start killing people over the interphone, what would the pilots have done? Today the answer is obvious. Two years ago it was not. Suppose people had been murdered in the back while the pilots sat behind the fortified doors and landed the airplanes on 9-11. With no proof of a suicide plot the lawyers would have sued on behalf of those victims on the grounds that if the pilots had met the demands, the passengers would have lived. The lawyers can twist the case any way that fits the outcome.

Lawyers always have the luxury of hindsight and time. Something many professions including this one do not.

 

[Anti-Matter]

UAL and AA are indemnified against awards arising from 9-11 by the Fed Government, so don't get your panties in a tissy. I'm not sure about the Port Authority or Boeing.

Even if the airlines were not indemnified, how can they be faulted for following FAA-mandated training when dealing with hijackers.

 

[jdru25]

Lawyers should all rot in H.E.L.L. This is B.S. and nothing good can come of this. When are the people in this country going to learn that money spent in lawsuits isn't going to help anything or bring anyone back. It was our country's fault that those A.S.S.H.O.L.E.S got into this country in order perform the attack. American and United was just doing their everyday business and the flight crews just went by the book on Hi jack procedures.

 

[Swass]

As in any profession, you have good lawyers and bad lawyers. I think the defining line is how greedy they become. Class action lawyers, on the other hand, are the worst of the worst. They make their millions off of trying to break corporations who pay thousands of families incomes.

Say it with me, Tort Reform!!!!!!!!