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Wright Flyer reenactment

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Chunk

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Well, the cable news networks gave a whole 2 minutes of coverage and immediately cut away once the reenactment failed to get aloft. They spoke of how 'disappointing' it was. I found it to be proof of how amazing the Wright Brothers were. 100 years later, we still can't match their performance, at least not easily.

Way to go Wilbur. Good on ya, Orville.
 
It looked like he rotated, but the engine died. It's extremely wet and you could see the water on the track get pushed out of the way.

I hope they try again.
 
They needed at least 10 knots of wind to help them get airborne. They had that at the start but as he rolled down the track, the wind died down to 6-7 knots and we now know the end result. Let's hope they try again and the winds cooperate this time!
 
Re-Enactment of Wright Bros. Flight Fails



By WILLIAM L. HOLMES, Associated Press Writer

KILL DEVIL HILLS, N.C. - A 100th-anniversary attempt to re-create the Wright brothers' first flight flopped Wednesday when a delicate, wood-and-muslin replica of their airplane failed to get off the ground and splashed into a mud puddle.



On a rainy day when the winds on North Carolina's Outer Banks were uncharacteristically calm, a team of engineers tinkered with the plane and waited for the breeze to pick up before they finally gave up trying to match the feat of the two self-educated bicycle mechanics from Dayton, Ohio.


"Well, if this were easy, I guess everyone would do it," said Tom Poberenzy, president of the Experimental Aircraft Association, a group of aviation enthusiasts that had a hand in building the painstakingly accurate reproduction.


In what was supposed to have been the climax of a six-day celebration of the historic Dec. 17, 1903, flight, the rickety flyer roared its engine and began the slow crawl down its 200-foot wooden launching track before flopping unceremoniously into a puddle in the sand.


The plane, meticulously created at a cost of $1.2 million, twisted awkwardly before stopping with its right wing pushed into the sand, leaving a snapped crosswire and broken fitting.


As a crowd estimated at 35,000 groaned, pilot Kevin Kochersberger dropped his head in apparent embarrassment, tempered only slightly by the fact that President Bush (news - web sites), who had spoken at the anniversary festivities earlier in the day, had already left and was not on hand to see it.


About three hours later, after repairs to the engine and front wing assembly, organizers rolled the plane out to its runway to wait for the rain to ease and the winds to pick up.


Using a crew of Wright ancestors and descendants of the locals to help move the plane into position, Kochersberger, wearing a crash helmet and 1903-era necktie, lay prone with his hands on the controls, waiting for a gust of wind that never came. Kochersberger shrugged with resignation as the team called it quits and let the engine sputter to a stop.


There were no immediate plans to fly the plane on another day. The craft, financed by the Ford Motor Co., is scheduled to join the collection of the Ford Museum in Dearborn, Mich.


The reproduction — 605 pounds, with authentic spruce ribs and a wingspan of 40 feet — matched the brothers' work down the thread count of the muslin covering its wings (news - web sites), and the frustration it produced was also historically accurate.


Orville and Wilbur Wright crashed their flyer at least once before pulling off their successful flight at Kill Devil Hills, not far from Kitty Hawk. The contraption they built in their bicycle workshop back in Ohio took flight four times that day; the first lasted 12 seconds, the final one was 59 seconds long and covered 852 feet.


The re-enactors had planned for years to launch the airplane at 10:35 a.m., 100 years to the minute from when the Wrights first ascended into the skies under motored power. That plan was scrapped not only because of the drenching, scattered rains, but also because winds on the normally breezy Outer Banks dipped below the minimum 10 mph needed.


Bush arrived by helicopter at the Wright Brothers National Memorial and assured the shivering crowd that a touch of bad weather had not stopped the Wright brothers.


"On the day they did fly, just like today, the conditions were not ideal," Bush said. "The Wright brothers hit some disappointments along the way.


"There must have been times when they had to fight their own doubts," he said. "They pressed on, believing in the great work they had begun and in their own capacity to see it though. We would not know their names today if these men had been pessimists."


As Bush's departing Air Force One passed over the memorial, it dipped its right wing, as if in salute.





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What a big time "flop". You would think they could have done a little better with as much time as they had to prepare.

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I think the idea was to recreate the original flight using the same technology the Wright brothers had available, not to do "better".

I agree with Chunk, it shows how amazing a feat it was 100 years ago.
 
Tom Brokaw's so fukcing funny. He said they even managed to lose the luggage on the flight. Stick to your day job Tom. :rolleyes:

I think I know why they landed short though...did you see the size of the pilot's watch? It was huge, and obviously weighed them down.
 
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Utah State University recreated the Wright Flyer using modern composite materials. They've flown it at my airport a couple times. Very cool, but looks like pure hell to fly the thing. Would have been nice to see both fly there.
 
A "flop"? Hardly. The painstaking, diligent research and hard work that went into the reproduction is mind-boggling. The original only flew four times before it crashed, and these airplanes are IDENTICAL. The Wrights chose Kitty Hawk for the winds and today there weren't any. It'll fly. It very well may crash, but how cool that Ken Hyde and his minions did this at all.

There was so much heritage and facts about the brothers and their discoveries previously unknown and lost to history that are now part of our collective aeronautical knowledge and experience thanks to the Wright Experience. Flop? Come on dude, you're a pilot, look past the mud puddle here.

Cheers!
 
I thought it was pretty cool. I had the time off, I should have gone down there.

They just didn't have enough wind, but the re-enactment was more than enough.

Also very cool that Air Force 1 dipped its wing on departure.
 
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Hey fellas,

Remember that the Wright Bros. didn't get it to fly on their first attempt that day either!

Like LJDRVR says, look past that puddle of mudd. It's still amazes me how far we have come in 100 years.
 
A flop?.... Maybe to some people, but to the majority of type A, PFT, Low ball pilots this is a opportunity. Place the present pilot group on the street, send the pieces to Mexico for MX, and reattempt in the near future with the eager beavers. I'm sure they will fly the vehicle in freezing rain..... Of course only after having a subcontracted Mx outfit pencil whip the rigging repairs. If any of the eager beavers decline the test flight they can always find some Russian or Chinese pilots to do it for very cheap. Hell if it's good for you and me it's dam well good for a few twigs and Linen. I was surprised to see that the Wright Flyer was absent of advertising. Expected to see a Kotex brand name or something a little more proper like Prozac tatooed on the "Wright Brothers" foreheads. I'm surprised the TSA didn't require a Kevlar jockstrap and Mode C equipment along with a drug test for the "brothers". I'm sure the CAP was standing by along with a dozen Homeland Security assistant directors and our leaders at the FAA ready to spring into action if old Orville had deviated from his flight plan by a few feet or "displayed" suspicious behaviour. If the Wright brothers attempted anything such as this these days the local tree huggers and cops would have thrown them in jail in a New York minute. Maybe when the "Brothers" attempt the next flight John Hinckley will be able to be in attendance with his mommy and daddy of course. The Secret Service will fly them down for the day on a G5 so they can keep a close eye on old "dead eye". I just wish the next captain at the controls of the "Flyer" meets the EEOC requirements. This melting pot of a country demands a African,Eskimo,Muslim, Female disadvantaged quadraplegic flying with her teeth on the controls for the next departure.
 
I think it's amazing that they made the exact plane, and even though it didn't fly the first time doesn't mean it won't fly at all. My hats off to all of the individuals that pulled this reenactment off. Almost flew over there for it. Glad I didn't though. The weather was terrible.
 
It wasn't the exact airplane, actually. The original airplane doesn't exist, as it was flown at Kill Devil Hills. That airplane was heavily modified by Wilbur at a later date. The exact nuances of the airplane that flew 100 years ago is a mystery. Drawings are available in rudimentary form of later Flyers, but not the 1903 in it's form at the time.
 
Wright Brothers re-enactment

shamrock said:
I think the idea was to recreate the original flight using the same technology the Wright brothers had available, not to do "better".

I agree with Chunk, it shows how amazing a feat it was 100 years ago.
I second Chunk. It proves that the Wrights had a good reason to select Kitty Hawk over other locations.

There's probably a way to research National Weather Service records to find out the winds on December 17, 1903. The winds must have been far stronger that day than yesterday.
 
Tought the result was too bad as well. Maybe they'll try again later though.

Greatest disappointment though.....that when Pres. Bush was mentioning all of the heros of aviation that were pesent, he metioned everybody but Scott Crossfield. As far as I'm concerned he is as big a hero of that era as those other steelly eyed jet age pilots mentioned. A mistake in my estimation, especially since he was one of the major contributors to the project.
 
avbug said:
It wasn't the exact airplane, actually. The original airplane doesn't exist, as it was flown at Kill Devil Hills. That airplane was heavily modified by Wilbur at a later date. The exact nuances of the airplane that flew 100 years ago is a mystery. Drawings are available in rudimentary form of later Flyers, but not the 1903 in it's form at the time.


This agrees with what I have read. The original Flyer was destroyed by a wind gust and was modified upon the rebuild. It was subsequently damaged and more modifications were made during those repairs. After Wilbur died, Orville attempted to put it back to original sometime around the occasion of the Flyers exhibition in London, but a lot of time had passed since the original build date and even Orville wasn't sure if his restoration is authentic.

Interestingly enough, Ken Hydes "Wright Experience" Flyer is probably more authentic than the original which is currently displayed at the NASM since the NASM flyer was restored from Orville's memory and Hydes Flyer used ever bit of discernable data that $1.2 million could acquire. I understand that the recreators scanned ever known picture into a computer and used a powerful program to match the dimensions between images, and then used those dimensions to develop the best possible set of blueprints.

Recreating the engine was apparently even more of a challenge since it was built by eyeball. The prints that do exist for the engine do not produce a workable engine if followed to the specified dimensions.

cheers,
enigma
 
I've seen Ken Hyde's work before. That work includes a Jenny he flew to Oshkosh. That flight received front page coverage in USA Today. His wife drove to Oshkosh faster than he could fly.

The Discovery Channel had a two-hour production covering Ken's activities, as well as others, in this project.

The airplane did fly. However, the weather prevented flight yesterday. My father, a retired aeronautical engineer, pointed out conditions, as documented by the Wright brothers in 1903, showed higher winds and cooler temperatures. While disappointed, I'm not surprised the airplane didn't fly yesterday.
 

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