stb said:
an MDA pilot told me that to go to CHQ they were offered jobs.
1. 2 week indoc.
2. 2 sim sessions, 3rd sim checkride
3. $15,000 two year training contract. No pro-rated schedule.
4. Give up recall to AWA/USAirways
5. 30 days no medical insurance
6. Capt $50 range, F/O $21-$23 range
$5000 for each sim session????
The CEO pleaded to the MDA group to help proving runs and to expedite the certificate process.
He said something else about experience in the plane to help keep insurance costs down.
He said there was not much interest. Wonder why.
Absolute bull.
When I was hired the training contract had an experience clause (ie waived for those over a certain TT etc.) Don't know if this is still true or not.
CHQ has never required anyone to resign their recall rights. Approx. 1/3rd of my new-hire class was furloughed mainliners as a result.
Can't comment on the number of sim rides, as the company has not shared anything about this potential transition. 30-day wait for insurance bennies was standard for new-hires, I'd fully agree some sort of concession should be made here. (Maybe by Airways since they're the ones dumping these guys on the streets?)
Are you joking about the pay-scales? As crummy as they are here, our Captain rates are either the same or within a buck of MDA/MAA's (Better and worse depending on the year). Under our J4J protocol, captains come in as first-year guys, and FOs come in at the top of the payscale. As much as our FO scale has been maligned (and rightly so) it's a whopping 3 dollar an hour cut, for senior FOs. But wait, a lineholder's guarantee just went up 3 hours a month! And the per-diem increased, too. Oh, the agony!
What's really funny about the experience in the plane comment is that CHQ ALREADY OPERATES 23 E-170s. We've been flying them about 6 months less than MDA/MAA. Somehow I think we can find a guy or two that might be competent to fly a proving run. Admittedly absorbing 28 more aircraft into the fleet will go better with already trained crews. Thus, the J4J protocol.
As always, it's more fun to bash here with half-assed facts and assumptions. BTW, did I mention ALPA's humble request for integration with our lowly group of Teamsters? All they demanded was DOH (that's orignal mainline DOH, not MDA) on our entire list, PLUS super-seniority within the Republic certificate for ALL MDA pilots (including those CEL guys from the wholly-owneds who were never mainline pilots in the first place). Yeah, we're a real bunch of bastards for not immediately agreeing to that generous offer.