Would you leave CAL for NJA?

[refplusnone]

100% paid medical.

Is this for the employee only or the whole Family? Wife 2 kids.

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[tk855]

Is this for the employee only or the whole Family? Wife 2 kids.

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That is the whole family, it covers me, my wife, and my two kids. Medical, dental, and vision.

 

[Jafo73]

Is this for the employee only or the whole Family? Wife 2 kids.

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Whole Family. $20 co-pay when you go to a doctor. No referals required for specialists. For those who might be expecting, my brother's wife just had there second kid... $300 ($150 for the wife, $150 for the kid) and that was it.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Is this for the employee only or the whole Family? Wife 2 kids.

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Whole family.

 

[FLYLOW22]

I would like to see that math. If you have an insider trade secret method of making those dollars with a 126K base on the proposed 18-day schedule, do your union brothers and sisters a favor and lay it on us.

No secrets. Just equal pay for equal work.

I've run a yearly expected earnings budget on myself since starting here and I've come within 5% each time.

Base salary plus OT, 1 week vaca sell back, PTO sell back (6 days), Extended days I will fly, Holidays I will work on my sched, one time signing bonus, 6% average OT (for me) over base salary, etc. is what I use to make my calculations.

I can even calculate my take home pay by taking 45% off the top for taxes, fees and 401K.

I bet you are one of the pilots screaming about not having a hard copy of the TA to review. Ctrl+P must be too hard to enter on the keyboard? You need me to run a projected earnings analysis for you now?

You haven't done this yet?

I don't do side work. ASAP doesn't cover those gigs.

 

[Diesel]

Base salary plus OT, 1 week vaca sell back, PTO sell back (6 days), Extended days I will fly, Holidays I will work on my sched, one time signing bonus, 6% average OT (for me) over base salary, etc. is what I use to make my calculations.

I don't think is what Charlie Varrick ment when he said BASE salary. If you want to work all the angles of course you can make more money. But we're talking BASE here.

 

[FLYLOW22]

I don't think is what Charlie Varrick ment when he said BASE salary. If you want to work all the angles of course you can make more money. But we're talking BASE here.

I didn't see where he mentioned anything about BASE numbers. Even he can read those. I took his post to mean, "I'm not capable of reading the TA to see how I might make money NOT listed in a table in Section 27. Will you read the TA to me?" He can do it. He's a big boy.

Base is equivillent to a 121 companies Guarantee Pay. I don't know of many 121 pilots who plan on making just guarantee. Maybe there are some. I was never one.

The "angles" here are our version of making money over Guarantee Pay. In fact, I think it's nice to be able to plan our a year to see what I could expect to make above base.

One never knows untill the last paycheck of the year though so that's why I call it a projection.

 

[av8tor4239]

NO question.. quit CAL run and dont look back.. you will be much happier at NJ

 

[satpak77]

these days 100% paid medical is something to appreciate. Go have some kids like I did (two healthy babies, thank God) and you will thank your lucky charms that you have medical coverage

but of course that is in conflict with Kit Darby's teachings

fly a late model Citation 10 with fully paid medical for Warren Buffet's company or you can go with CAL's apparent insurance issues discussed in this thread

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=105047&highlight=medical+insurance

 

[cal73cap]

Yeah, it's tough.

Drove to work and preflighted the jet about 250 ft from where I parked. Sat around on standby with my flying partner yesterday at the FBO in a leather recliner. I drank green tea, ate company provided crewmeals... Chicken Cordon Bleu (sp?) and sliced filet (medium rare) while watching various sporting events and movies.

Enjoyed a great layover last night complete with Irish tunes and scenery. I couldn't understand a darned thing the guy with the mic was saying. Sounded like Brad Pitt's character in Snatch. Pure awesomeness.

Today... preflighted the jet. Repeat for 6 hours only changing the meals slightly. Bad Boys 2 is on the big screen. Flight later this afternoon.

All that and I expect to make 155K-185K next year depending on what schedule I will bid. Not bad and FAR better than average.

I will never go back to a major if I have the choice. I would leave aviation first.

Now, for a F/O starting out... if the TA passes... I still think this is a better deal. QOL is FAR better than 121. F/Os make somewhere arounf 68% of what Captains make here so earning potential is not bad in the right seat.

100% paid medical.

50% match on 401K up to the federal limit. ROTH 401K option too.

No commute. No sleeping in crew rooms on a hard floor while listening to the sounds of two random crewmembers sneaking a quickie on the couch around the corner.

Hiltons, Marriotts, Crowne Plazas and Hyatts for hotels (with the occasional Holiday Inn type hotel in smaller markets).

Crew food.

TSA exposure usually only 2wice per tour.

The ONLY thing I see 121 offering now is a diferent crew dynamic. I can do without that.

A couple of other things to consider that are way bigger than the type of flying we do.

1) We have the financial backing of Berk Hath (Warren Buffett) here. They print their own money...

2) Our CEO MADE this business. He loves it. I far more enjoy having him at the helm than some trust fund reject that made Cs and Ds at the Wharton School of Business.

3) We will not park airplanes as the price of oil climbs. Our Owners will fly regardless.

Planes do get parked in the corporate and frac. world, and then the folks head back to the cheaper seat airlines. When times get hard, both business jets and airliners get parked and or sold!