ATL2CDG
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Birdstrike:
Let me do this a second time... if you insist in called me a Mormon, at least spell it correctly... M-O-R-M-O-N. However, in all actually, I am more properly addresses as a Latter-Day Saint.
As I've said, you've been misled and misinformed, which is quite unfortunate.
Sorry, we're not a cult and it's not plain and simple. Let's first look at the full name of the Church... The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints . Jesus Christ is the cornerstone upon which our Church is built. Let me just cut and paste our Articles of Faith as they lay out the basics of what we believe:
Contrast and compare with creeds of other churches; they all have variances, they all have conflicting specifics, but they, including ours, are all basically of the same stock.
As you can read above, belief in Christ is required for salvation and exaltation. We believe the Christ is the literal Son of God. We believe He led a perfect life and showed mankind the path to eternal glory. We believe He, through faith in Him and following the commandments He ordained, is the ONLY means to return to the presence of Heavenly Father.
This is perhaps the most horrid of the falsehoods spread by those unwilling to learn and understand (not necessarily believe). We do NOT worship Joseph Smith. We believe that he was a prophet, chosen by Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ, to restore the gospel on Earth. We hold him in the same light as Moses, Isaiah, Paul and other ordained prohets of God. We believe he was the vessel by which Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ decided to reveal the true path to return to the presence of God and was responsible for the establishment of the restored church of God. As such, if one takes him to be a prophet, then the Book of Mormon and other revelations through him must be true. Heavenly Father and Christ, for thousands of years, used imperfect, human prophets to reveal the Word of God and lead true believers... that tradition continued with J. Smith and continues today with Gordon B. Hinckley. Prophets are human. Humans are falliable, flawed and imperfect. While the works of J. Smith were great, he was just a man, and CERTAINLY not worthy of worship; idolatry is a grave sin.
Well, since we've determined that the core belief in the necessity of Christ for salvation is shared between the two of us, I think we can say that we DO co-exist as two different paths to the same end. However, given how you think differences in any form are d*mnable, then who is true among the Catholics, hundreds of branches of Baptists, Methodists, Congregationalist, Presbyterians, Churches of Christ, Churches of God, Episcopals, etc.? Who has it right? At least with my faith, ALL MANKIND has the ability to be saved, whether they were ministered to on Earth or lived thousands of years before Christ in the depths of Africa; ALL MANKIND is worthy of exaltation, not just Brother Bubba and those who believe Rev. Joe at First Baptist Church in Normalsville. --Also, we don't think Christ is a prophet... he's part of the Godhead.
Obviously you talked to the Mormon missionaries and did not care to listen to them. That's all haters of our faith want to do... is talk... Heaven forbid that you should actually LISTEN to what we say we believe; it's quite apparent that you know everything about us.
~sigh~
And it's not indoctrination, it's the presence of the Holy Ghost entering our open hearts and showing us that the Church is true and that salvation is attained through Jesus Christ, the Son of God. It's people of your mindset that would destroy the Church; at least we have the civility to let you exist and worship as you wish (see number eleven above).
TysV
Let me do this a second time... if you insist in called me a Mormon, at least spell it correctly... M-O-R-M-O-N. However, in all actually, I am more properly addresses as a Latter-Day Saint.
As I've said, you've been misled and misinformed, which is quite unfortunate.
Sorry, we're not a cult and it's not plain and simple. Let's first look at the full name of the Church... The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints . Jesus Christ is the cornerstone upon which our Church is built. Let me just cut and paste our Articles of Faith as they lay out the basics of what we believe:
Contrast and compare with creeds of other churches; they all have variances, they all have conflicting specifics, but they, including ours, are all basically of the same stock.
As you can read above, belief in Christ is required for salvation and exaltation. We believe the Christ is the literal Son of God. We believe He led a perfect life and showed mankind the path to eternal glory. We believe He, through faith in Him and following the commandments He ordained, is the ONLY means to return to the presence of Heavenly Father.
This is perhaps the most horrid of the falsehoods spread by those unwilling to learn and understand (not necessarily believe). We do NOT worship Joseph Smith. We believe that he was a prophet, chosen by Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ, to restore the gospel on Earth. We hold him in the same light as Moses, Isaiah, Paul and other ordained prohets of God. We believe he was the vessel by which Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ decided to reveal the true path to return to the presence of God and was responsible for the establishment of the restored church of God. As such, if one takes him to be a prophet, then the Book of Mormon and other revelations through him must be true. Heavenly Father and Christ, for thousands of years, used imperfect, human prophets to reveal the Word of God and lead true believers... that tradition continued with J. Smith and continues today with Gordon B. Hinckley. Prophets are human. Humans are falliable, flawed and imperfect. While the works of J. Smith were great, he was just a man, and CERTAINLY not worthy of worship; idolatry is a grave sin.
Well, since we've determined that the core belief in the necessity of Christ for salvation is shared between the two of us, I think we can say that we DO co-exist as two different paths to the same end. However, given how you think differences in any form are d*mnable, then who is true among the Catholics, hundreds of branches of Baptists, Methodists, Congregationalist, Presbyterians, Churches of Christ, Churches of God, Episcopals, etc.? Who has it right? At least with my faith, ALL MANKIND has the ability to be saved, whether they were ministered to on Earth or lived thousands of years before Christ in the depths of Africa; ALL MANKIND is worthy of exaltation, not just Brother Bubba and those who believe Rev. Joe at First Baptist Church in Normalsville. --Also, we don't think Christ is a prophet... he's part of the Godhead.
Obviously you talked to the Mormon missionaries and did not care to listen to them. That's all haters of our faith want to do... is talk... Heaven forbid that you should actually LISTEN to what we say we believe; it's quite apparent that you know everything about us.
~sigh~
And it's not indoctrination, it's the presence of the Holy Ghost entering our open hearts and showing us that the Church is true and that salvation is attained through Jesus Christ, the Son of God. It's people of your mindset that would destroy the Church; at least we have the civility to let you exist and worship as you wish (see number eleven above).
TysV
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