Will The AirTran Pilots' Windfall Be A Consideration?

[Ty Webb]

Don't worry Tyrone, you will have a special place.

Yup. The same place I was in before the announcement. As the law is designed to provide.

 

[PapaWoody]

Yup. The same place I was in before the announcement. As the law is designed to provide.

I think you need to read the law again. If it was designed to award relative seniority in every case, then it would have specified relative seniority as the method of integration. It didn't, instead opting to require a "fair and equitable" integration of seniority lists, to be driven by situation-dependent factors. In this case, imho, relative seniority would not be fair nor equitable.

Fraternally,
PapaWoody

 

[swa737-700]

Hey Red,

You guys have a great contract. I congratulate SWAPA pilots for achieving that. I say this with zero sarcasm.

The one hitch I can see in your calculations is this; There are no nine year FO's at AirTran. The nine year pilots at AirTran have been Captains for the last 6 to 6.5 years.

Cheers.

Well that will change even IF DOH is awarded. Seniority is seniority.

 

[vixin]

I heard one cartel guy in PHX made, $1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.99 last year and he had twenty five days off every month!

Thanks you helped me prove a point with Ty. With another well thought mature post from a tranny.

I actually saw the Dec. paystub of the CA over $400,000. He works his butt off. Thats not for me.

 

[Ty Webb]

PW, . . . "Fair and Equitable" means something different to you than me. Money is not as important to me as it is to you. You think your present pay rates should buy my seat and/or relative seniority. I don't.

Let's just agree to disagree and let the MEC's decide it.

 

[Ty Webb]

Well that will change even IF DOH is awarded. Seniority is seniority.

You, sir, are likely to be among the most disappointed.

 

[PapaWoody]

PW, . . . "Fair and Equitable" means something different to you than me. Money is not as important to me as it is to you. You think your present pay rates should buy my seniority. I don't.

Let's just agree to disagree and let the MEC's decide it.

I'm not trying to buy your seniority with our contract, I'm just pointing out that it would be unfair for your "seniority" to disregard my longevity.

Agreed on the agree to disagree, and that F&E will mean different things to different people. (Probably why they didn't define it as relative seniority )

PW

 

[ivauir]

Yup. The same place I was in before the announcement. As the law is designed to provide.

I don't try to ... tell you what you should expect from the merger or SLI

Ty,

Please reconcile your statements. You are talking out of both sides of your mouth and it is hardly constructive.

It is clear that you take every opportunity to post comments like the first one in some bizarre attempt to affect opinion on a message board. Let's talk facts and leave the posturing behind:

The law provides for "Fair and Equitable", specific solutions are NOT defined. In fact there are examples where-in relative seniority and even seat positions were lost. I would not go as far as to compare our situation to those cases, because, unlike you I wish to honor the M+A request not to discuss the SLI. Nothing good will come from such a discussion.

 

[Kharma Police]

Thanks you helped me prove a point with Ty. With another well thought mature post from a tranny.

I actually saw the Dec. paystub of the CA over $400,000. He works his butt off. Thats not for me.

It was tongue in cheek. Seriously, do you guys sit around and compare each others paychecks all the time? I've seen it almost on every occasion when I'm around you guys even before September 27th. Is it a nouveau riche thing? I was raised to not talk about money around mixed company but I guess it beats talking about religion or politics...........

 

[Ty Webb]

In fact there are examples where-in relative seniority and even seat positions were lost.

Between two profitable, growing companies with similar fleet types? Pray, do tell.